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Old 09-04-2008, 11:53 PM   #556
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every night has been a slow night for larry for a good decade. he doesn't even know who he is anymore, let alone any of his guests.

case in point
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every night has been a slow night for larry for a good decade.
Not true.

He has 2 kids under the age of 10.
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You just can't get over the fact that I was right in predicting the Sarah Palin nomination can you?
Funny story- My brother, a fellow conservative, was hoping about 6 weeks ago that McCain would pick Palin. He printed out a pretend McCain/Palin poster and stuck it outside his cubicle at work. A month later, when the announcement indeed came, some guy stuck his head in his cubicle and said "So what are next week's lottery numbers?"
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seems like the point of the speech was that Republicans need to get off their Jesus horses and listen to him or the present incarnation of the party is going to be swept into the dustbin of history in November.

perhaps it was a concession speech.
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Old 09-04-2008, 11:54 PM   #560
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I dont think anyone would mistake the NY Post as a conservative paper
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Old 09-04-2008, 11:55 PM   #561
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I don't see why those of you think the Republican Party is changing, think so.

You say Palin, Jindal, et al are the future of the party, and point at Romney, Guiliani, Huckabee, et al as your candidates of today. In Palin and Guiliani, I see neo-cons, in Romney and Huckabee, I see a sort of moderate, sort of neocon, who could easily make the move right to being a full-on neocon, and Jindal, I honestly don't know anything about.

I see the party moving further to the right before it ever gets more moderate again.

McCain is a dying breed. His Republicans don't exist anymore. And he's had to sell out a great deal, arguably most, of what he's believed in to get this far. He knows that. I think there was a subtle shade of sadness in speech tonight reflecting this.
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seems like the point of the speech was that Republicans need to get off their Jesus horses and listen to him or the present incarnation of the party is going to be swept into the dustbin of history in November.

perhaps it was a concession speech.


i always wanted my parents to buy me a jesus pony
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I preferred his speech to Palin's, and yes, I'm keeping in mind the purpose each has. He did his speech better. I may not agree with him, but it wasn't bad.

I hear where you are coming from

McCain is the true moderate, and his speech was more bi-partisan
plus there was an authenticity to it, because it was the real McCain.
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perhaps it was a concession speech.
You keep saying that, and it's confusing me. The polls next week are going to be dead even and this race will be the flip of a coin, at least for a little while.

Concession speech?
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Jindal, I honestly don't know anything about.

Jindal seems like a competent executive, yet he thinks castrating sex offenders is a good idea. and exorcisms, too.



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McCain is a dying breed. His Republicans don't exist anymore. And he's had to sell out a great deal, arguably most, of what he's believed in to get this far. He knows that. I think there was a subtle shade of sadness in speech tonight reflecting this.

the more i think about it, the more touching it almost kind of is.

but then i'm just a biased Obama idiot.
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Thanks for being willing to point out Republican hypocrisy.
There is hypocrisy on all sides..Reps, Dems, Independents, all of them. I'm not drinking the GOP Kool-Aid.
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his speech was more bi-partisan
plus there was an authenticity to it, because it was the real McCain.
In contrast, her speech came across as mean, non-inclusive and smug.

I think they actually realize they went too far.
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His Republicans don't exist anymore.
i beg to differ. it's just that some of us call ourselfs independents these days. not our fault that mitt romney took away our jesus horses

i really like the phrase jesus horse. i'm gonna use it more... if only to drive my lutheran coworks batshit crazy.
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Independents, at least those starting from scratch more or less, immediately saw a low display by the left. That's all I'm saying. It didn't help their cause.
You are insulting their intelligence. Or, possibly, it is your intelligence!

So, according to your logic (or the lack of), the undecided voters lack the intelligence to decipher the difference between the actions of three protesters at the RNC, and a presidential ticket. They will automitcally think "evil protestors raining on the RNC MUST be Democratic operatives...this is horrible and I obviously need to vote for McCain because of how evil they are."

O.K.

Any other theories?
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Concession speech?

he distanced himself from the party. he was all about who he was, what he believed, and he repudiated both the base and the last 8 years.

he can't win without the base. he knows this.

it was a very reflective speech, wistful even, and very little red meat. almost none. almost an explanation of who he has been for the past 40 years and how he wants to distance himself from the freak show the Republican Party has become since Bush 1.
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