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Old 08-26-2015, 01:36 PM   #31
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He tried to kill himself but failed in the hospital


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Kinda mad that medical professionals have said their oath so they still have to save the guy's life..
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After Shooting, Alleged Gunman Details Grievances in ‘Suicide Notes’ - ABC News

He blames Dylann Roof (while also citing the VT and Columbine shooters) for starting a race war and claims Jehovah spoke to him telling him to kill.
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I just heard on MSNBC that the shooter has died
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Old 08-26-2015, 02:25 PM   #35
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Kinda mad that medical professionals have said their oath so they still have to save the guy's life..
Why, so he doesn't have to deal with consequences?
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Old 08-26-2015, 02:32 PM   #36
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Nothing regarding gun violence shocks me anymore. It's pretty damned disturbing to realize that.

Have we had any horrible "If the two victims had been armed, they'd be alive right now" statements from a loony gun net in power yet?
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Old 08-26-2015, 02:52 PM   #37
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Nothing regarding gun violence shocks me anymore. It's pretty damned disturbing to realize that.

Have we had any horrible "If the two victims had been armed, they'd be alive right now" statements from a loony gun net in power yet?
I haven't heard anything yet, but then again I don't watch Faux News
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I truly wish I had not watched the video.
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Old 08-26-2015, 02:59 PM   #39
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Nothing regarding gun violence shocks me anymore. It's pretty damned disturbing to realize that.

Have we had any horrible "If the two victims had been armed, they'd be alive right now" statements from a loony gun net in power yet?
If only the reporter's mic could also shoot bullets, and if the cameraman's video camera was able to convert into a bazooka, none of this would have happened.
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How did this guy get fired from as many jobs as it looks like he did for having anger management problems, and yet no one ever got him any help?

Oh, I know...because that costs money. But let's let the market be in charge of health care. It'll work itself out. You deserve to be able to pay for the healthcare you want, right?

Universal Healthcare = Socialism. Scary.

Shit fucking kills me. Why was he able to get a fucking gun?!
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Old 08-26-2015, 03:43 PM   #41
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I'm sorry I have never heard of these presenters (where Im from) but I wish to say that I find it tragic to have happened, and RIP to the two that were shot.....lives stolen....


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I'm sure we'll find anything else to talk about besides the underlying issue, guns.

We'll talk generally about mental health, race....but not the actual object that was used to kill.
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The underlying issue of the gun issue, or at least it's best friend, though, IS healthcare.
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the only thing I can say with 100% certainty is:

People are fucked up.


and this will be another national Rorschach test
everything said about it, the people involved, etc will tell us little about those things but will reveal many things about the people making the remarks.
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Old 08-26-2015, 04:22 PM   #45
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A few observations:

That he had a gun is not what caused the crime. The gun was a tool to carry out the crime. Take away one tool and he would have found another.

Looks like they didn't notice the shooter until it was too late, and their initial reaction was to flee. It wouldn't have made a difference if the victims were armed. The shooter could have picked up the extra guns afterwards, and had more tools to kill.

"Get him help"? What a joke. There's an old saying: you can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink. If he didn't want help it wouldn't have mattered if someone "got him help". Add to that you really can't lock up everyone who is angry. Some of the comments I hear sound suspiciously like the plot from Minority Report, with the precrime bureau.

Anyway, I guess I'm not offering any real solutions to the problem, just observations. I don't think guns or mental health are the issues (though ease of access is part of it. Why do we need a competency test to get a driver's license but not a gun?). I don't believe in god. But I do value human life, and feel that respect for human life is what's missing.

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