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Old 01-18-2009, 02:58 AM   #16
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Interesting. Seems opinion is quite divided within the Saudi culture.

Call for legislation to stop child marriages

Call for legislation to stop child marriages
Donna Abu-Nasr | AP


RIYADH: An 11-year-old boy gave out invitations to his classmates for a big event his family was planning this summer — and it wasn’t his birthday party.

It was his wedding to a 10-year-old cousin.

Muhammad Al-Rashidi’s marriage was eventually put on hold, his father said, after pressure from the governor of Hail, who considered the elementary school student too young to marry.

The case is among a recent spate of marriages involving the very young reported in the media and by human rights groups. They have been widely denounced by activists, Islamic scholars and others who say such unions are harmful to the children and trivialize the institution of marriage.

The Kingdom is already rocked by a high divorce rate that has jumped from 25 percent to 60 percent over the past 20 years, according to Noura Al-Shamlan, head of the research department at the Center of University Studies for Girls.

“We are studying this issue so we can put an end to this phenomenon,” said Zuhair Al-Harithy, board member of the Human Rights Commission. “These marriages violate international agreements the Kingdom has signed.”

Al-Harithy’s group recently succeeded in delaying the consummation of the marriage of a 10-year-old girl after getting reports from medical centers in Hail that she and a man in his 60s had showed up for the mandatory prenuptial medical tests.

He said the commission wrote to the province’s governor and head of Islamic courts urging them to stop the marriage.

But there are other marriages involving children that have gone ahead.

One involved a 15-year-old girl whose father, Muhammad Ali Al-Zahrani, a death-row inmate, married her off to a cell-mate who also was sentenced to death. The father’s sentence was carried out on July 21; he was beheaded for killing another man. Pictures of the wedding, held in the prison in Taif for the men, appeared in several newspapers.

Media reports said inmates recited poems and delivered speeches in the presence of prison officials. The teenage bride and other women, as is the custom here, held a separate reception outside the jail.

The groom, Awad Al-Harbi, and his bride were allowed to spend two nights together in special prison quarters after the wedding, according to Al-Watan. Al-Harbi told another newspaper, Al-Madinah, recently that his wife was pregnant.

There are no laws defining the minimum age for marriage. Although a woman’s consent is legally required, some marriage officials do not seek it. For example, a father can marry off a one-year-old girl as long as sex is delayed until she reaches puberty, said one marriage official, Ahmad Al-Muabi.

Known as “mathoons,” these officials have legal authority to preside over marriage contract ceremonies.

They ask the groom and the woman’s guardian if they approve of the marriage and then give them the marriage papers to sign.

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There are no statistics to show how many marriages involving children are performed each year. And it is also not clear whether these unions are on the rise or whether people are hearing about them more now because of the prevalence of media outlets and easy access to the Internet.

But the phenomenon is not new, said Sheikh Muhammad Al-Nujaimi, a strong opponent of the marriages. He and other Islamic scholars, activists and writers have urged the government to pass legislation setting the minimum age for marriage and to resolve differences among the Kingdom’s religious authorities over the issue.

“There are different (religious) opinions regarding the marriages which is why we need the government to settle the issue through legislation,” said Al-Nujaimi.

Such marriages occur not only in Saudi Arabia. In April, an eight-year-old Yemeni girl sought out a judge to file for divorce from a man nearly four times her age. Her lawyer said she was one of thousands of underaged girls who have been forced into marriages in Yemen.

Activists say the numbers in the Kingdom are not so high. They say the girls are given away in return for hefty dowries or as a result of longstanding custom in which a father promises his infant daughters and sons to cousins out of a belief that marriage will protect them from illicit relationships.

Denouncing the custom, Grand Mufti Sheikh Abdul Aziz Al-Asheikh and top religious authority recently said a guardian should not impose his will on his children or promise them to their cousins.

“Islam has stipulated that both parties agree to the marriage contract,” he said. “The woman must express real consent to the suitor, and a guardian must not impose his choice of husband on her ... or force his son to marry someone he doesn’t want.”

Al-Muabi, the marriage official, told LBC TV that because marriage in Islam takes place in two stages — a marriage contract can be signed months or even years before a woman moves in with her husband — that means a one-year-old girl can be married off.

A man “can enter a marriage contract with a one-year-old girl, not to mention nine years, seven years or eight years,” said Al-Muabi. “This is just a contract indicating consent, and the guardian in this case must be the father.”

Al-Muabi maintained such unions make sense in some cases, such as when a man is the sole guardian of many daughters. “Isn’t it better to marry his daughter to a man with whom she can stay and who can protect her and support her, and when she reaches the proper age, have sex with her? Who says all men are ferocious wolves?” said Al-Muabi.

However, Sheikh Abdul Mohsen Al-Obaikan, a legal adviser at the Justice Ministry, said a girl’s consent is crucial.

“A marriage official should not conclude a marriage contract without the woman’s agreement and without her signature,” Al-Obaikan told Al-Madinah newspaper. “Officials who ignore such instructions expose themselves to punishment.”

Until laws are put in place to protect children, human rights groups have been speaking out against the practice.

“When girls are married off at a young age they will be deprived of education and the opportunity to enjoy their childhood,” said Suhaila Hammad of the National Society for Human Rights (NSHR). “Their bodies won’t be able to tolerate pregnancy and deliver children.”

But there’s only so much the groups can do.

Muraiziq Al-Rashidi, the 11-year-old boy’s father, said he will delay his son’s marriage only by a year. “God willing, we will hold the wedding next year,” he said.
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Old 01-18-2009, 06:20 AM   #17
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I'm shocked at the Islamophobia in this thread, whatever happened to COEXIST, and tolerance, and understanding; am I to believe that kiddy fiddling is one of those non-negotiable violations of human rights which simply should not be allowed?
You cannot honestly be saying the negative reaction to this is Islamophobia? How about the rights of all humans trumping cultural practices which equate to nothing more than child sexual abuse? Islam, whatever. Childrens rights in all cultures go way above some bullshit about tolerance and understanding. COEXIST, my arse.
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Outrageous irony, my position on the limits of tolerance have been made clear.
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Outrageous irony, my position on the limits of tolerance have been made clear.
I don't get it. How is it ironic? I don't ever pretend to be tolerant.
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I made a statement about tolerance, but in the context of the post it should have conveyed a rejection of culturally sanctioned child abuse (it could just as easily be in the context of circumcision).
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He was obviously joking and probably parodying how a bleeding heart liberal might react. Anyway, fuck tolerance when children are being blatantly exploited under the guise of ridiculous Religious laws.
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