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Devastating article about a recent immigrant who was gang-raped by a male group of fellow recruits two weeks into his basic training, after being hounded as a "champagne socialist" and a "commie faggot".
__________________What do you guys think? Is there something inherent to military culture that promotes this kind of sexual aggression, (beyond the long-held, and desire to cover it up by higher-ups)? The instances of rape of females in the military has been played off by idiots as "they shouldn't be serving in the first place", but if the statistics for male victims continue to emerge, what to say then? Also, this little bit is pretty staggering: Quote:
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As for the "military culture" question, I disagree on the "inherent" part, but for starters these findings would seem to suggest serious inadequacies in establishing an ethos of professionalism in the military. It's never going to be like an office job, but christ, that doesn't justify open season on the one who has an accent, or a baby face, or breasts and a vagina, or is gay, or short, or however the fuck people like this pick their targets. A quote that still disturbs me from another article I posted, in a thread on rape in the military several years back: Quote:
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I think it's devastating that we have men like that in our military and that any sort of culture like that exists. It makes me feel ill.
And that the "superiors" have that attitude-what can you even say about that? I think we need to at least attempt to fix the problems in our military before we run around the world trying to fix the injustices in so many other countries. Talk about a moral imperative. |
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The comment is stated over & over again, but it's like people don't hear it: Rape - male v. female, male v. male, female v. female, whatever! - isn't about sex. Rape is not about sex. Rape is NOT about sex!! It's about domination & humiliation, which can easily be observed even in friendly circles. (How many times have we all seen that one guy amongst the group of buddies that always gets picked on or pushed around?) I can only imagine how palpable their presence is in the uber-masculine universe of the military. My hope is that one day society will understand rape doesn't just happen to women and gay men - maybe then, any victim, whether civilian or military can tell their story & not be subjected to further humiliation, i.e. a heterosexual soldier being made to sign a declaration that he's homosexual after reporting abuse against him.
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Huffington Post
The House Committee on Rules blocked an amendment from going to vote on Wednesday that would have allowed military rape victims to access abortion care through their government-provided health plans. Earlier this week, Rep. Susan Davis (D-Calif.) and five other House Democrats submitted an amendment to the 2012 National Defense Authorization Act that would reverse the current policy of denying abortion coverage to military women who are raped and become pregnant during their service. As the bill currently stands, servicewomen have to pay out of pocket for an expensive abortion procedure unless they can prove that their lives are in danger. By contrast, other federal bans on abortion coverage, including those for Medicaid recipients, federal employees, and women in federal prisons, all include exceptions for victims of rape and incest. The ban on abortion coverage for military rape victims is actually more extreme than the Hyde Amendment, which has prohibited federally-funded abortions for the past 30 years except in the cases of rape, incest and life endangerment. "I think it's outrageous that we have young women who are serving our country and sacrificing their lives, and if they are raped and a pregnancy happens then they cannot utilize federal resources in order to have an abortion," Rep. Davis told HuffPost. "How can we tell a servicewoman that we would provide funding for her if she were sitting in a safe office in Washington, DC, but because she's fighting for our freedom in Afghanistan we tell her no? It's just not acceptable." Instances of rape in the armed services are alarmingly common: The Pentagon reported more than 3,000 cases in FY 2009, and the Department of Defense estimates that reported incidents only account for a small fraction of the sexual assaults that actually occur. Davis said it is unclear exactly why the House Committee on Rules, led by Rep. David Dreier (R-Calif.), decided that the amendment did not deserve to be debated or get a vote. "I think they just don't want this to come up," she told HuffPost, "so they used a rule to block it." |
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Way to support the troops
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Not much in the government is about supporting the troops.
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Nah we're just sending in SWAT teams to shoot veterans for suspected pot possession
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That story pisses me off so much. The PR guy for the sherriff's office claimed they clearly announced themselves and had sirens blaring. Going by that helmet cam, the sirens lasted all of 5 seconds and there was no knock. And they did not allow medics into the house until a full hour had passed from the shooting. Oh, not to mention they found absolutely nothing drug related inside. Body armor and some weapons. Gee, now why would a Marine vet of 2 tours in Iraq have weapons? Instead the police are now trying to say this guy with absolutely no criminal record was part of a home invasion crew.
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