cobl04
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I'll bite my tongue from saying what I'd really like to say.
I'll just say that this is the dumbest post I've ever seen from you.
And in the "and this is why I'm having a hard time believing the cops" category:
Mike Brown: Facts and Dog Whistles
Around here it's mostly drug use, or the odd number of abandoned buildings that tend to catch on fire more frequently any time cuts of FD funding in towns get mentioned. There's a fair amount of shady shit fire depts around here have done in order to get the ambulance service. None of it involves killing anyone, though.
It's the nature of the job though, you're not going to open the can of worms that gets opened when a cop uses deadly force because that's not exactly what firefighters do...
Preposterous.You know - it may serve this forum better to have a more politically neutral mod. Unless the intention is for this forum to be a backslapping Liberal circle-jerk. If that IS the intention, you are succeeding quite well. That is also why it is dying a slow (but accelerating) death.
A few years back in FYM - debate across the political spectrum was encouraged (yet, it was never exactly equal - but this is a U2 website - so Left-leaning is expected). Now, it seems you've bullied/bored away any dissenting (i.e. - non-Liberal) opinions.
Preposterous.
This has nothing to do about Diemen being a mod.
This only has to do with him pointing us towards someone who has clarified what is FACTUALLY known about this case. Tough luck for you for not liking those facts.
Would Diemen be a better mod for not pointing us to this twitter account?
Again, preposterous.
Preposterous.
This has nothing to do about Diemen being a mod.
This only has to do with him pointing us towards someone who has clarified what is FACTUALLY known about this case. Tough luck for you for not liking those facts.
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You know - it may serve this forum better to have a more politically neutral mod. Unless the intention is for this forum to be a backslapping Liberal circle-jerk. If that IS the intention, you are succeeding quite well. That is also why it is dying a slow (but accelerating) death.
A few years back in FYM - debate across the political spectrum was encouraged (yet, it was never exactly equal - but this is a U2 website - so Left-leaning is expected). Now, it seems you've bullied/bored away any dissenting (i.e. - non-Liberal) opinions.
Would Diemen be a better mod for not pointing us to this twitter account?
So you're disputing the facts in the link Diemen posted?
I would hope a conservative mod would also have the decency to point toward FACTS.
Even when they might not suit his/her own political agenda.
Call me crazy.
I don't think it is Diemen's role as a mod in a forum such as this to participate in this manner.
Ah, now I understand why we have a different opinion on this:
you're wrong
So you're disputing the facts in the link Diemen posted?
I don't think it is Diemen's role as a mod in a forum such as this to participate in this manner.
And the post that made you suggest this forum should have another mod was completely innocuous.
pretending to be the voice of reason,
1) I like Diemen. I think the forum would be better served if Diemen was more neutral.
2) I have no frickin' idea who Shaun King is - and I have no way to know/verify many of his claims. I can only use what I see on the publicly accessible web. I've posted links to the sources I've used. I have also stated my opinion on the case IS NOT set in stone.
3) I think that FYM was better with more conservatives in it. It was dynamic, controversial, heated, entertaining - but more importantly, educational.
4) It was't that particular post - it was the number of posts by Diemen in this thread that only supported one-side of the argument. Let us regular users duke it out.
I don't think it is Diemen's role as a mod in a forum such as this to participate in this manner.
3) I think that FYM was better with more conservatives in it. It was dynamic, controversial, heated, entertaining - but more importantly, educational.
I have no way of knowing that.You do realise he is capable of posting in a personal capacity sometimes and in a mod capacity in others?
Then allow other Right/Center-leaning mods to add balance.I thought it was pretty clear when he was doing one or the other. This forum would be much the worse if he did not post his personal opinions - he is one of our more reasoned and articulate individuals.
That is not true. In fact, I remember getting a PM from YOU about 10 years ago encouraging me to stand my ground on gay marriage (I was a Republican then - I am a Dislike-All-Parties-Party now). No worries - back then, as an obvious Conservative, I received numerous PMs and emails encouraging me in PRIVATE because of the way users were treated in PUBLIC in this forum.I don't recall us having many genuine, classic conservatives - just a bunch of extreme right nutbags who provoked unproductive flame wars.
Few is the keyword. The forum is dying. I'm sure some DBA out there can get us the numbers...Anyway, this forum has a fair few people who are only "liberal" in a US sense,
I am hardly far-right. Yet, that doesn't matter. In forums like this - what matters is debate and discussion (unless you simply love agreement on a continual basis. Me - I love controversial items. I want to debate - to learn - to change my mind if necessary). That is why I loved this forum a decade ago. Now, with it's half dozen back-patting Liberals, FYM is only exciting when someone like me breaks up the circle-jerk with the POSSIBILITY there MAY be another point of view...and would be centre-right anywhere else. We've got quite a spectrum from the centre-right through to communists. The idea of it being homogeneous seems to only be in the minds of a few on the US far right who can't tell the difference between the centre-left, social democrats, communists, etc.
This is already allowed. As far as I know there are no rules preventing anyone Right Wing to become a mod.Then allow other Right/Center-leaning mods to add balance.
That is not true. In fact, I remember getting a PM from YOU about 10 years ago encouraging me to stand my ground on gay marriage (I was a Republican then - I am a Dislike-All-Parties-Party now).
Awesome - who are they?This is already allowed. As far as I know there are no rules preventing anyone Right Wing to become a mod.
Why? If they abuse the role - fire them. What's the risk?However, to add a mod to FYM just because he/she is right wing is a ridiculous notion.
To clarify - if mods ARE EXPECTED TO participate in the discussion, then a more balanced team of mods is necessary for the health of the forum.Since you don't want mods to participate to the discussion (apparently), I also don't see what good it'll do.
I already addressed that above. I have no clue who this Shaun King is and no way of verifying/discrediting many of his claims. I only have access to public information available on the web. This man makes claims with no sources.I'm confused what point you're trying to make apart from trying to divert attention of the content in the link Diemen posted.
I have no way of knowing that.
That is not true. In fact, I remember getting a PM from YOU about 10 years ago encouraging me to stand my ground on gay marriage (I was a Republican then - I am a Dislike-All-Parties-Party now). No worries - back then, as an obvious Conservative, I received numerous PMs and emails encouraging me in PRIVATE because of the way users were treated in PUBLIC in this forum.
Few is the keyword. The forum is dying. I'm sure some DBA out there can get us the numbers...
I am hardly far-right. Yet, that doesn't matter. In forums like this - what matters is debate and discussion (unless you simply love agreement on a continual basis. Me - I love controversial items. I want to debate - to learn - to change my mind if necessary). That is why I loved this forum a decade ago. Now, with it's half dozen back-patting Liberals, FYM is only exciting when someone like me breaks up the circle-jerk with the POSSIBILITY there MAY be another point of view...