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Old 12-26-2014, 01:39 AM   #631
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Hello Mr. Mike Rowe. I'm a big fan and also happen to work in the lower Haight as well as live in Alameda. I have to ask with everything that is going on in Ferguson, how do you feel about the protests in SF as well as the looting/rioting in downtown Oakland?

Hi Meghan

Last week, those very protests blocked off one of the major arteries, and as a result, I was 90 minutes late to a holiday dinner in Alameda. I apologized for my tardiness, and was told by my hostess not to give it a second thought. “It’s a small price to pay,” she said, “given all that’s at stake.” Another guest, already well into the eggnog, wondered aloud if a heart attack victim waiting for an ambulance stuck in traffic might hold a different view?

Within moments, everyone was talking about Garner and Brown, and the conversation got very political very quickly. A liberal guest said, “Look, I wasn’t there, but it seems pretty clear that both men would still be alive had they been white.” A conservative guest replied, “I wasn’t there either, but it seems pretty clear that both men would still be alive if they hadn’t resisted arrest.”

This annoyed the liberal, who asked the conservative why Republicans wanted a “police state.” This annoyed the conservative, who asked the liberal why Democrats wanted “total anarchy.” Things continued to escalate, and within moments, fingers were pointing, veins were bulging, and logical fallacies were filling the air. Ho! ho! ho!

For once, I kept my mouth shut and listened as a roomful of decent people tore each others throats out. It was remarkable, because no one disagreed on the big points. No one disagreed that black lives mattered just as much as white lives. No one disputed that racial bias in law enforcement should be exposed and eliminated. In fact, no one disagreed about the basic facts surrounding each case. The breakdown happened over relevance and context.

My conservative friends were focused on the fact that both men died while resisting arrest, and were therefor responsible for their own demise. They wanted to discuss the killings in light of the incredible risk that all police officers agree to assume.

My liberal friends were focused on the fact that both men were unarmed, and were therefor victims of excessive force. They wanted to discuss the killings in the context of historical trends that suggest bias plays a recurring role in the way cops treat minorities.

By dessert, it was clear that both sides wanted law and order. But the conservatives were convinced that order is only possible when citizens treat cops with respect. Liberals, on the other hand, were arguing that order can only occur when cops treat everyone the same. And round and round we went. The chicken and the egg.

Later, on the drive home, I called a friend of mine back in Baltimore. He’s black, successful, and hard-working. He also resents the way he’s gotten swept into the zeitgeist of Ferguson. In his words, “I’m a pawn in someone else’s agenda, and I’m sick of it. I know what bias looks like in my life. I'm tired of being represented by two petty criminals who died resisting arrest.”

I hadn't thought about it like that, but he's got a point. The vast majority of black Americans have never broken the law. And yet, millions of lives are now entwined with the death of Brown and Garner. That's not fair, but it's hardly breaking news. Minorities are constantly stereotyped and the impression lingers. Looters and arsonists run amok, and Black America suffers the association. Now I'm trying to get my head around the fact that two cops are dead in Brooklyn, assassinated by a lunatic in “retaliation” for Ferguson and Staten Island. Unbelievable.

How much worse can it get for the millions of law-abiding minorities, struggling to be seen as individuals? How much worse can it get for the thousands of honest cops, trying to protect a citizenry that doesn't seem to appreciate their daily sacrifice?

A few days ago, people were marching in the streets, literally calling for the execution of police. (“What do we want? Dead Cops!”) Others are standing by today, waiting to lionize the assassins who answer the call. These are not the champions of justice; these are the enemies of civilization, and it’s up to sensible people on both sides of the aisle to close ranks and shout them down. If we want to live in a nation of laws, we need to support the humans sworn to uphold them. They’re a lot of really great cops out there who have promised to do that very thing, including the one in my family. We’d be screwed without them.

To answer your question Meghan, I support peaceful protests, and I’m all for rooting out bad cops. But let’s not stop there. If we're serious about saving lives, and eliminating the confrontations that lead to the demise of Garner and Brown, let’s also condemn the stupidity that leads so many Americans to resist arrest. I don't care if you're white, black, red, periwinkle, burnt umber, or chartreuse - resisting arrest is not a right, it’s a crime. And it's never a good idea.

Mike

PS. In lighter news, it's come to my attention that CNN will attempt to air a new episode of SGDI, tonight at 9pm Eastern. (Assuming we can get through a whole day without a riot, an earthquake, a terrorist attack, and Ebola outbreak, or a Zombie Apocalypse.)

Mike
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I guess police only shoot black males that point guns at them, right?

Either that or they figured since she was a woman she couldn't shoot for shit
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I guess police only shoot black males that point guns at them, right?

Either that or they figured since she was a woman she couldn't shoot for shit


Wait, no, misogynistic comments are the opposite of funny.
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Old 12-29-2014, 10:56 PM   #635
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Only if you're an uptight liberal with no sense of humor.

Dont take that the wrong way.

And I'm not misogynistic, i love pussy!
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yeah, but no. he's doing the mindless equivocation thing -- "liberals are just like conservatives, and i'm the honest broker!"

the party sounds totally made up, as does his black friend in Baltimore.

does he also think Eric Garner was "resisting arrest"?
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Old 12-29-2014, 11:51 PM   #637
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Here's a list of the 10 most dangerous jobs in America. Spoiler: being a cop isn't on the list.

The 10 Deadliest Jobs:
1. Logging workers
2. Fishers and related fishing workers
3. Aircraft pilot and flight engineers
4. Roofers
5. Structural iron and steel workers
6. Refuse and recyclable material collectors
7. Electrical power-line installers and repairers
8. Drivers/sales workers and truck drivers
9. Farmers, ranchers, and other agricultural managers
10. Construction laborers


America's 10 Deadliest Jobs - Forbes


Top 10 Most Dangerous Jobs in the Country: Police Officer is NOT on the List | The Free Thought Project


"What exactly is more dangerous than being a cop? For starters, a trash collector is twice as likely to die on the job versus a cop, fishing is 7 times more dangerous than being a cop, and logging workers, nearly 9 times more dangerous.
Here are occupations more dangerous than being a police officer. Number of deaths per 100,000 employed:
  1. Logging workers: 127.8
  2. Fishermen: 117.0
  3. Aircraft pilots: 53.4
  4. Roofers: 40.5
  5. Garbage collectors: 36.8
  6. Electrical power line installation/repair: 29.8
  7. Truck drivers: 22.8
  8. Oil and gas extraction: 21.9
  9. Farmers and ranchers: 21.3
  10. Construction workers: 17.4

The majority of police deaths are not as a result of violence in the line of duty either, most have occurred accidentally rather than feloniously. Most police officers die, not in some heroic high speed pursuit of a child murderer, but in routine traffic accidents."
My dad has been a roofer his entire adult life. Worked up to the point where he owned his own company. I worked for him, as a roofer, many moons ago; commercial jobs, big buildings.

Hard, demanding, exhausting, and yes, dangerous work.

But anybody who thinks roofing is more dangerous than being a police officer is an idiot.

There are plenty of societal issues to pick apart over what's going on these days. Try to stick with one that makes sense.
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And I'm not misogynistic, i love pussy!
No one cares about your boner.
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Only if you're an uptight liberal with no sense of humor.

Dont take that the wrong way.

And I'm not misogynistic, i love pussy!
It seems impossible for you to interact with this forum in a mature way. That's a problem, and one I'm tired of addressing.
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It seems impossible for you to interact with this forum in a mature way. That's a problem, and one I'm tired of addressing.
What? I cant say "liberal" now either?

You know what, fuck you and the rest of you snobby, uptight, LIBTARD cunts.

Piss on this fucking forum.
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What? I cant say "liberal" now either?

You know what, fuck you and the rest of you snobby, uptight, LIBTARD cunts.

Piss on this fucking forum.
Well after all these years you proved ONE thing...

Too bad it wasn't policy, morally, or even side based.
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Yeah, we're so thin skinned that we can't take being called "liberal". Never mind that the rest of your post was vulgar, crude, and completely inflammatory. Good fucking riddance.

Why is it that conservatives think that left-leaning people consider the word "liberal" such a horrible insult? Many seem to think that it's an awful thing to be called and that it's on par with a racial slur and will drive anybody into a froth, but I've yet to meet one true liberal who gets upset at being called that. At worst, I might see mild annoyance but that mostly arises from the fact that it's trying to be used as an insult (and usually at the expense of an actual reply).

Seriously, why do conservatives think being called a "liberal" is so awful to actual liberals?

(Maybe this is a topic for another thread)




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What? I cant say "liberal" now either?



You know what, fuck you and the rest of you snobby, uptight, LIBTARD cunts.



Piss on this fucking forum.


Drunk again? Does your black girlfriend know?


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This thread makes me lose my faith in humanity little by little every time I decide to read it.
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