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Old 08-17-2014, 04:54 AM   #46
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If this isn't some poor attempt at satire... Wow.




Fatally shot though? And what about when he was reportedly running away, showing the international, centuries-old sign for surrender?
You're right - Michael Brown was an innocent Angel.

If you live your life so blind, you cannot even pretend to EVER be a part of an actual solution to the problems that led to his death. You are a Kool Aid drinker.
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I can't understand how any halfway decent human being could readily believe anything the Ferguson PD are saying about Michael Brown. Bloody hell.
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You're right - Michael Brown was an innocent Angel.



If you live your life so blind, you cannot even pretend to EVER be a part of an actual solution to the problems that led to his death. You are a Kool Aid drinker.

You're usually much more balanced than this, AEON.

I happen to believe that shooting an unarmed teenager is probably a little bit worse than petty shoplifting.

From what I've read, he wasn't an angel - but from what I've gathered in my 24 years of living being "not a nice person" is one of the most abhorrent defences for killing someone I've ever seen.

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Old 08-17-2014, 05:18 AM   #49
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You're right - Michael Brown was an innocent Angel.

If you live your life so blind, you cannot even pretend to EVER be a part of an actual solution to the problems that led to his death. You are a Kool Aid drinker.
Dude you are still just part of the problem.

The naivete that some Western white folk have about the cops being the good guys is just daft and beyond silly.

So you have extrapolated from that one incident (if it is Michael Brown in that store) to the rest of this guys life that he is a complete and utter thug?

My dad has thrown a petrol bomb, i've been in a stolen car...What the hell does that make me?
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Dude you are still just part of the problem.

The naivete that some Western white folk have about the cops being the good guys is just daft and beyond silly.
Thank you.

It's a problematic thing over here too, in my experience and around the place, if you choose to criticise the police for even some of their actions you're almost immediately thrust with the "oh you must have a criminal record" non-argument. For a lot of people the actions of the police are not to be met with any sort of criticism.
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Old 08-17-2014, 07:18 AM   #51
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I've grown up in a community with an implicit distrust of any security force. In general whitefolk have not had to deal with this sort of injustice because it has never been aimed at them. They are probably not ever going to get it.
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You're right - Michael Brown was an innocent Angel.



If you live your life so blind, you cannot even pretend to EVER be a part of an actual solution to the problems that led to his death. You are a Kool Aid drinker.


Thugs, including unarmed ones, don't deserve to be shot to death.

Like in the TM case, MB would be alive today if he were any race other than black.


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My dad has thrown a petrol bomb, i've been in a stolen car...What the hell does that make me?


Are you a black teenager wearing a hoodie and eating Skittles?

Because no matter what you've done, you aren't likely to get shot by police or macho idiot Rambo-wannabes armed to the teeth if you aren't an unarmed black teenager.

You'll get the benefit of the doubt by virtue of your non-black skin color.


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When I was Michael Brown's age, I stole from convenience stores and other places all the time. Was I labelled a thug? No. Why is that?

Did that behaviour deserve to be met with fatal violence. Not for me, not for Brown, not for anybody.

For the record, I was able to move beyond that behaviour and become a better person, something that Michael Brown will never have a chance to.
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You're right - Michael Brown was an innocent Angel.



If you live your life so blind, you cannot even pretend to EVER be a part of an actual solution to the problems that led to his death. You are a Kool Aid drinker.

Wow...




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For the record, I was able to move beyond that behaviour and become a better person, something that Michael Brown will never have a chance to.
Not fair to jump so quickly to the conclusion that Brown actually stole anything.
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I think its obvious by now that Michael Brown was not a very nice person. It's not too difficult at this point to see that that when he encountered police...10 minutes later!...he was probably in the same "mood" as he was in the convenience store. He's obviously a mean, intimidating bully. I cannot believe you are you still defending this guy!

It's amazing that you who are defending Michael Brown say so little about the shop owner Michael stole from and bullied in the video.

Although all the facts have not yet come in - and they will - at this point, we are probably going to find out in the next few days that Michael punched the officer in the face and tried to take his weapon. That act alone will get you shot by ANY officer - your race, nor the race of the officer, will matter once something like that that happens.

This is yet another instance of the press trying to make something a race issue - and only for the ratings (i.e. money). I do not doubt that there are racial tensions in this area - and they need to be addressed, but I think the media is more pleased stoking the flames than actually helping contain the fire.

This whole story of reaching for the weapon doesn't make sense to me. The autopsy will give us some more insight. But unless the gun goes off during the struggle of reaching for the gun, it's not a justifiable shooting. Once the officer has control of the gun there is no risk of life. So this case will come down to the trajectory of the bullet.


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It is like what do you expect young people to be in these marginalised communities? It doesn't create saints, but it also doesn't create monsters who need to be gunned down.
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Why is it that every so often in this forum the charge comes around that racism is a media/liberal conspiracy meant to oppress decent, hard-working white people?
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You're right - Michael Brown was an innocent Angel.

If you live your life so blind, you cannot even pretend to EVER be a part of an actual solution to the problems that led to his death. You are a Kool Aid drinker.
The police have done everything in the world to not earn your trust. Stop trusting them. They don't have dash cams (they do, but they never installed them) so they can pretty much make up whatever they want to. I'll believe the eyewitnesses, thanks.
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