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Old 08-14-2014, 05:04 PM   #16
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Good point. As with pretty much any statistic out there regarding social problems, it makes much more sense to analyze by income/poverty levels than by race.

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Old 08-14-2014, 05:36 PM   #17
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I dated a woman that seemed to have an unnatural fear of black men
I later found out she was robbed at gun point at a bank ATM - black man
she is Japanese American - black on yellow crime


I left a pizza on my kitchen counter and went to get my laundry
when I got back,- canine on pizza crime
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Do you all think an alien invasion would help racial tension?


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Good point. As with pretty much any statistic out there regarding social problems, it makes much more sense to analyze by income/poverty levels than by race.
I think a lot of inner city crime stems from 1. lack of job opportunities and 2. bad or nonexistent parenting. It's a mix of a subtle caste system that exists partially due to institutionalized racism, as well as a long-running history of absentee parenting in the black community. Yeah, I think crime increases as socioeconomic status decreases, but it's not entirely by chance that many of these men and women aren't being offered the same opportunities. To an extent, it starts in the community, but on a smaller level, it starts at home.

African Americans actually find black-on-black crime to be an important term because it points the blame inwards instead of out to other races. It's a "look what we're doing to ourselves" kind of attitude. But that is, of course, just one way of looking at the problem.
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The higher incarceration rates I always found as a reasonable example of why there is more absentee parenting. You stop locking up black men you might see some improvement in this area.
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Well with the exception of Independence Day, black characters go first according to the movies.

So unless they attack on that day, probably not.


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It's a "look what we're doing to ourselves" kind of attitude. But that is, of course, just one way of looking at the problem.
Is it laziness
Don't they know white people have a lot more good stuff and are probably insured.
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I think a lot of inner city crime stems from 1. lack of job opportunities and 2. bad or nonexistent parenting. It's a mix of a subtle caste system that exists partially due to institutionalized racism, as well as a long-running history of absentee parenting in the black community. Yeah, I think crime increases as socioeconomic status decreases, but it's not entirely by chance that many of these men and women aren't being offered the same opportunities. To an extent, it starts in the community, but on a smaller level, it starts at home.
Agreed with all of this. It's especially apparent in Chicago, which as you probably know is a highly segregated city. The south and west sides receive next to no government attention (infrastructure etc.) and employers are very hesitant to expand into those areas. Apparently now a lot of Latinos and African-Americans are moving to the suburbs as more and more yuppie types (for lack of a better term) move into areas like Logan Square, Avondale, etc, so there is an issue of displacement as well. I gather a similar process is underway in Brooklyn and probably areas of LA as well.
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That touches on the issue of gentrification which is also happening in Philly and many other cities.
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we've spent a lot of time over the past 50 years realizing that racism is wrong, but we don't yet really gasp what racism actually is.
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I dated a woman that seemed to have an unnatural fear of black men
I later found out she was robbed at gun point at a bank ATM - black man
she is Japanese American - black on yellow crime
Interesing that, at least in this particular case, the fear turned out to be entirely rational.

The average white liberal's concern for advancing black privilege, or at least the privilege not to be criticised or to have most if not all criticisms of collective or individual behaviour put in the "racism" box strikes me as a classic case of the proverbial turkeys voting for Christmas.

Great news from South Africa though:

http://africacheck.org/reports/is-sa...s-meaningless/

Maths and science rankings are meaningless - they don't adequately reflect the unique South African culture.

Celebrate!
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There is no such thing as society. There are individual men, and women, and there are families. - Margaret Thatcher
This really is best served by Russell Brand's quote from his best piece, following Thatcher's death:

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The blunt, pathetic reality today is that a little old lady has died, who in the winter of her life had to water roses alone under police supervision. If you behave like there's no such thing as society, in the end there isn't.
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This really is best served by Russell Brand's quote from his best piece, following Thatcher's death:
Russell Brands piece just shows how ill-informed he is.

Of course she had police protection after leaving office - all British Prime Ministers do, what a rubbishy point for him to make.

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She was a loathsome woman on so many levels. Absolutely loathsome.

I remember very well the views that South Africans expressed about her, basically in unison.
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Interesing that, at least in this particular case, the fear turned out to be entirely rational.

Would it be rational to fear all red headed women if robbed by one? Would it be rational to fear all tweens if robbed by one?

Now it may be reactionary, even understandable, but not rational.


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