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Old 07-06-2016, 01:24 AM   #256
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Look at the text in the "star" they keep saying but but but the Star of David has a triangle inside a triangle. It is there. Look at where the text is placed. Star of Trump.

This is like the 34th time Trump did this.

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I watched that video. It's one of the most horrible things I've ever seen. Black men are 25% of Baton Rouge's population, but make up 100% of those shot by police.
And probably 90% of the crimes. People need to consider that police are going to be reckless regardless (although there often is a racial undercurrent at play in these shootings). A greater percentage of white deaths than black deaths occur at the hands of police, for example, which is probably a good reason why the community should be focused a wee bit more on the problems among themselves.

But, just out of necessity, black deaths by police happening at about double the expected rate (13% of the population being black) really isn't that surprising when you look at the crime statistics where blacks are way over-represented for every single crime nationwide with the exceptions of gambling and some driving related issues. Of course the police are going to be involved more often in those communities and of course the number of police shootings are going to be above what would be expected. There's more crime period.

I mean, do you want a personal experience? I work part-time security in San Francisco. It's a great gig, frankly. Black men make up about 6% of the population there, but literally make up at least 80% of the people walking the streets downtown at night around 3AM, most of them not even homeless. And it's not conjecture, it's an observation that's stayed true over the half decade I've worked there. You can't tell me there's not a culture issue at play there. Otherwise, you'd just be making a racist assumption that black men are genetically predisposed to walking around urban areas for no reason. Likewise, most of the major crimes I've had to report from seeing men and women assaulted to major property damage, etc. have been done by black males.

Changes need to be made. Even one unnecessary death at the hands of the police is too many, and the ones that reek of downright murder are completely abhorrent. But this is something where the spotlight is often shining a little too bright and people are quick to jump to conclusions, such as having protest rallies immediately when a black guy is shot at a gas station and then, the next day, the Mayor and the videotape come out showing him literally pulling out a gun and firing at an officer. Let's work together with like minds to resolve this problem that's running rampant across police localities across the country without being quick to play the race card.
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Old 07-06-2016, 01:42 AM   #258
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And probably 90% of the crimes. People need to consider that police are going to be reckless regardless (although there often is a racial undercurrent at play in these shootings). A greater percentage of white deaths than black deaths occur at the hands of police, for example, which is probably a good reason why the community should be focused a wee bit more on the problems among themselves.

But, just out of necessity, black deaths by police happening at about double the expected rate (13% of the population being black) really isn't that surprising when you look at the crime statistics where blacks are way over-represented for every single crime nationwide with the exceptions of gambling and some driving related issues. Of course the police are going to be involved more often in those communities and of course the number of police shootings are going to be above what would be expected. There's more crime period.

I mean, do you want a personal experience? I work part-time security in San Francisco. It's a great gig, frankly. Black men make up about 6% of the population there, but literally make up at least 80% of the people walking the streets downtown at night around 3AM, most of them not even homeless. And it's not conjecture, it's an observation that's stayed true over the half decade I've worked there. You can't tell me there's not a culture issue at play there. Otherwise, you'd just be making a racist assumption that black men are genetically predisposed to walking around urban areas for no reason. Likewise, most of the major crimes I've had to report from seeing men and women assaulted to major property damage, etc. have been done by black males.

Changes need to be made. Even one unnecessary death at the hands of the police is too many, and the ones that reek of downright murder are completely abhorrent. But this is something where the spotlight is often shining a little too bright and people are quick to jump to conclusions, such as having protest rallies immediately when a black guy is shot at a gas station and then, the next day, the Mayor and the videotape come out showing him literally pulling out a gun and firing at an officer. Let's work together with like minds to resolve this problem that's running rampant across police localities across the country without being quick to play the race card.
How you are a mod here I do not know. You just pulled "and probably 90%" outta well a donkey is to kind. Are you serious or are you just stupid?
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How you are a mod here I do not know. You just pulled "and probably 90%" outta well a donkey is to kind. Are you serious or are you just stupid?

What gave you the impression this troll is a mod?

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Look at the text in the "star" they keep saying but but but the Star of David has a triangle inside a triangle. It is there. Look at where the text is placed. Star of Trump.

This is like the 34th time Trump did this.

So yeah buy into crooked Hillary all you want because you have been taught

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Look at the text in the "star" they keep saying but but but the Star of David has a triangle inside a triangle. It is there. Look at where the text is placed. Star of Trump.

This is like the 34th time Trump did this.

So yeah buy into crooked Hillary all you want because you have been taught

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And probably 90% of the crimes. People need to consider that police are going to be reckless regardless (although there often is a racial undercurrent at play in these shootings). A greater percentage of white deaths than black deaths occur at the hands of police, for example, which is probably a good reason why the community should be focused a wee bit more on the problems among themselves.

But, just out of necessity, black deaths by police happening at about double the expected rate (13% of the population being black) really isn't that surprising when you look at the crime statistics where blacks are way over-represented for every single crime nationwide with the exceptions of gambling and some driving related issues. Of course the police are going to be involved more often in those communities and of course the number of police shootings are going to be above what would be expected. There's more crime period.

I mean, do you want a personal experience? I work part-time security in San Francisco. It's a great gig, frankly. Black men make up about 6% of the population there, but literally make up at least 80% of the people walking the streets downtown at night around 3AM, most of them not even homeless. And it's not conjecture, it's an observation that's stayed true over the half decade I've worked there. You can't tell me there's not a culture issue at play there. Otherwise, you'd just be making a racist assumption that black men are genetically predisposed to walking around urban areas for no reason. Likewise, most of the major crimes I've had to report from seeing men and women assaulted to major property damage, etc. have been done by black males.

Changes need to be made. Even one unnecessary death at the hands of the police is too many, and the ones that reek of downright murder are completely abhorrent. But this is something where the spotlight is often shining a little too bright and people are quick to jump to conclusions, such as having protest rallies immediately when a black guy is shot at a gas station and then, the next day, the Mayor and the videotape come out showing him literally pulling out a gun and firing at an officer. Let's work together with like minds to resolve this problem that's running rampant across police localities across the country without being quick to play the race card.
How very progressive of you
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And probably 90% of the crimes. People need to consider that police are going to be reckless regardless (although there often is a racial undercurrent at play in these shootings). A greater percentage of white deaths than black deaths occur at the hands of police, for example, which is probably a good reason why the community should be focused a wee bit more on the problems among themselves.

But, just out of necessity, black deaths by police happening at about double the expected rate (13% of the population being black) really isn't that surprising when you look at the crime statistics where blacks are way over-represented for every single crime nationwide with the exceptions of gambling and some driving related issues. Of course the police are going to be involved more often in those communities and of course the number of police shootings are going to be above what would be expected. There's more crime period.

I mean, do you want a personal experience? I work part-time security in San Francisco. It's a great gig, frankly. Black men make up about 6% of the population there, but literally make up at least 80% of the people walking the streets downtown at night around 3AM, most of them not even homeless. And it's not conjecture, it's an observation that's stayed true over the half decade I've worked there. You can't tell me there's not a culture issue at play there. Otherwise, you'd just be making a racist assumption that black men are genetically predisposed to walking around urban areas for no reason. Likewise, most of the major crimes I've had to report from seeing men and women assaulted to major property damage, etc. have been done by black males.

Changes need to be made. Even one unnecessary death at the hands of the police is too many, and the ones that reek of downright murder are completely abhorrent. But this is something where the spotlight is often shining a little too bright and people are quick to jump to conclusions, such as having protest rallies immediately when a black guy is shot at a gas station and then, the next day, the Mayor and the videotape come out showing him literally pulling out a gun and firing at an officer. Let's work together with like minds to resolve this problem that's running rampant across police localities across the country without being quick to play the race card.
Certainly it had nothing to do with decades of ramping up penalties for crimes that occur in black communities (marijuana possession)! It's just black people commit a lot of crimes, you got it.

Go vote for Trump, asshole.
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Crime statistics of nearly every category show blacks committing more crimes. I don't see why it's considered racist to point that out. It's reality. Face it.

For example, homicides:

"According to the US Department of Justice, blacks accounted for 52.5% of homicide offenders from 1980 to 2008, with whites 45.3% and "Other" 2.2%. The offending rate for blacks was almost 8 times higher than whites, and the victim rate 6 times higher. Most homicides were intraracial, with 84% of white victims killed by whites, and 93% of black victims killed by blacks"


You were saying Baton Rouge's population is 25% black male. Most crimes are committed by men and Baton Rouge's black male population alone would make up half of men in that city and therefore at least half the crime. Throw in the expected increase in crime among the black community due to factors like poverty and what we see nationwide from city-to-city and you're going to get at least 70% of crimes ranging from murder, etc. being caused by black males in Baton Rouge. I would contend that the very high black population in the area would get you to 90% as most cities don't have half of their males being black (San Francisco, as I mentioned, is 6% black yet the vast majority of murders are black-on-black).


Baton Rouge Advocate newspaper did an article about city murders in 2012. There was a PDF with the police information that others have written about although the PDF itself now seems to be gone. 87 percent of murder victims were black males. 96 percent of the perpetrators of murder, were, drumroll...black.

So yes, my 90% isn't bullshit.
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Certainly it had nothing to do with decades of ramping up penalties for crimes that occur in black communities (marijuana possession)!
So, longer sentences for marijuana mean more murders...even though the murder rates were higher in those sort of high black population cities before marijuana penalties were ramped up.

Stop making stretches. If a group commits a crime at a given rate, they've committed it at that given rate. We can have an honest discussion about underlying issues involved, etc. But at least use reality as a starting point rather than ignoring it because it doesn't conveniently fit your narrative.
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How very progressive of you
Indeed. I want police reform just like the rest of the left.

Or did you not actually read my post and instead put on your Social Justice Warrior hat because the fact that blacks commit crimes at a far higher rate than everyone else is too inconvenient?
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Baton Rouge's black male population alone would make up half of black men in that city and therefore at least half the crime.
Fuzzy math...
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So, longer sentences for marijuana mean more murders...even though the murder rates were higher in those sort of high black population cities before marijuana penalties were ramped up.
Think about this for a little bit...
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Fuzzy math...
No, obvious math that would work for any major American city with a black male population that is 50% or more.

Or did you just ignore the fact that 96% of Baton Rouge murders in 2012 were by black perpetrators?
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Think about this for a little bit...
So, you're saying they locked up more would-be murderers?

And of course, that's just stupid as we all know there's been a general decline in violent crime for the last 25 years across all racial groups, so marijuana sentences has nothing to do with it.
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