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Old 06-27-2016, 11:32 AM   #226
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I'm much more concerned that police officers were called racist when maybe they weren't.

That's what's really upsetting here.

It's not just a matter of the individual officers being racist. It's also a matter of the BPD as a whole being racist and carrying out racist policies, which it most certainly is. Racism is not just individual, it's institutional and structural.


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Old 06-27-2016, 11:34 AM   #227
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I have a question for this thread. Is anyone here a person of color? Shouldn't their voices be heard in a thread about racism? A bunch of white people talking about racism leads nowhere, we have to have the voices of people of color heard.


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It's not just a matter of the individual officers being racist. It's also a matter of the BPD as a whole being racist and carrying out racist policies, which it most certainly is. Racism is not just individual, it's institutional and structural.


and it's upsetting to be called racist as such when a jury just acquitted someone. that proves there was no racism!

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I have a question for this thread. Is anyone here a person of color? Shouldn't their voices be heard in a thread about racism? A bunch of white people talking about racism leads nowhere, we have to have the voices of people of color heard.


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White people should only be allowed to admit guilt and apologize.

Or you know we should have input from people who are actually affected by racism.


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I think it would be better if we had more diverse views.

But then again, the majority of posters here seem to be men and they commonly tell us what women think, how they will vote, etc. Or straight people piping in with their thoughts about gay marriage (which does not affect them either).
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There's not much we can do to diversify the discussion here. The site's demographics are the site's demographics. Then narrow it down to this forum.

Unless someone wants to drag U2BROTHR kicking and screaming into FYM.
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It's not just a matter of the individual officers being racist. It's also a matter of the BPD as a whole being racist and carrying out racist policies, which it most certainly is. Racism is not just individual, it's institutional and structural.


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These six officers have had their careers destroyed and lives turn upside down. The fact that they were unjustly charged matters a lot. Thinking lawyers knew from the start Mosby did not have any evidence. Allowing mob rule is scary.

Where is the evidence that the BPD as a whole are carrying out racists policies?
I keep hearing the words "institutional and structural" racism and I just don't see it.

I'm not saying racism does not happen. Like the title of this thread, I'm just saying it is highly exaggerated to explain the real causes of actions and event. This keeps us from discussing the real problems and seeking solutions for them.
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Racism: glorified hyperbole in America

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These six officers have had their careers destroyed and lives turn upside down.
A young black man DIED of severe blunt force trauma to the spine while in their custody. But yes, won't somebody think about the officers, right?

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The fact that they were unjustly charged matters a lot.
The fact that they were not convicted and/or there was not enough evidence to convict does not mean that they didn't do anything wrong.


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I keep hearing the words "institutional and structural" racism and I just don't see it.
I'm not surprised you don't see it. But when a young black man is left handcuffed and unsecured on the back of a police van and dies as a result of injuries sustained during that ride, and no one on the police force is held accountable, many people see that as an example of institutional and structural racism. A system so rigged against minorities that you can die while handcuffed and being tossed around the back of a police van and people will still say it was your fault.

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Like the title of this thread, I'm just saying it is highly exaggerated to explain the real causes of actions and event. This keeps us from discussing the real problems and seeking solutions for them.

The real problem is racism.
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The fact that they were unjustly charged matters a lot. Thinking lawyers knew from the start Mosby did not have any evidence. Allowing mob rule is scary.
Well I guess since 7 Republican lead investigations found that Clinton had no wrongdoing in Benghazi; she's innocent and you will accuse your fellow conservatives of mob rule?

Oh wait...
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Where is the evidence that the BPD as a whole are carrying out racists policies?
I keep hearing the words "institutional and structural" racism and I just don't see it.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_New_Jim_Crow

You don't see it because you're not looking.


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Racism: glorified hyperbole in America

Like climate change, acknowledging institutional racism is uncomfortable and challenging and might cause us to question our choices and assumptions.
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Old 07-01-2016, 01:53 AM   #240
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Like climate change, acknowledging institutional racism is uncomfortable and challenging and might cause us to question our choices and assumptions.

Yup, acknowledging institutional racism and the way racism permeates all aspects of American life caused me to reexamine my own past views on race in America and how my whiteness has affected my life and who I am. The Trayvon Martin case is what caused me to become more aware of the racial issues in this country, I was the same age as he was when he was murdered. That case really made me question my beliefs and values.


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