BonosSaint
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There's a difference between a sense of guilt and a sense of responsibility to right something.
There's a difference between a sense of guilt and a sense of responsibility to right something.
you're missing the forest for the trees.
comparatively, my family are relatively new to the United States. they all immigrated in the early part of the 20th century (save for my mother's father's father's side). there were none of us over here during slavery, and my mother's side were Irish Catholic and they landed in NYC.
but that doesn't mean that, by virtue of being white, they were able to better maximize whatever opportunities than they would have been able to had they been the descendants of slaves. there's little question that the legacy of slavery continues today, in a generalized form and in the shape of now illegal but still resonant institutionalized discrimination (housing, schooling, education) that affects generation after generation. it's not *my* fault, not at all, but i'd be wrong if i felt that i was distinct and apart from this historical legacy simply because my family didn't directly own slaves.
What about white Canadians? Should I be carrying some white man's guilt?
this was the ironic point.
Perhaps I am taking this comment out of context, but it seems to me that there is occasionally crime everywhere.... I lived in a small, dutch city and guess what. Someone down the street...a Caucasian male who had a full time job, went to church and contributed to society...had a meth lab in his basement.
Or here in Michigan, there are crimes committed in both the "ghetto" as it may be considered...but just blocks away, there is an upper class neighborhood and guess what...white people do things there too!
I apologize if I am missing the point of this comment. If so, you can explain to me what you mean.
I figure this thread's a good a place as any to make this announcement, and I'm doing this because I know I always wonder what happens when a familiar poster just disappears.
I'm going to be leaving FYM, and Interference in general for an indefinite time period. It could be days, weeks, or longer. . .I don't know. I do think I'll come back at some point. But right now I'm going through some really intense stress with my career. Piled on top of that, for the first time ever on this forum, I've felt uncomfortable. . perhaps unsafe is too strong a word, but that's the one that comes to mind. I've always assumed that no matter how heated things get, at the end of the day we're all friends. I'm not sure of that right now and with all the real-life shit going on in my life right now, the last thing I need is additonal stress from here.
I really do respect this online community and it has been a great blessing to me. I do hope I'll feel I can return soon. In the meantime, I'm out. If you want to reach me, you can do so through PM.
And she rather grudgingly confirmed that this was indeed the case.
I'm sorry to hear that, Sean. I enjoy your posts a lot, and count them among the most intelligent, balanced and thoughtful in FYM. Take care, I hope your sense of comfort here returns, and that your real life stress resolves very soon.
I figure this thread's a good a place as any to make this announcement, and I'm doing this because I know I always wonder what happens when a familiar poster just disappears.
I'm going to be leaving FYM, and Interference in general for an indefinite time period. It could be days, weeks, or longer. . .I don't know. I do think I'll come back at some point. But right now I'm going through some really intense stress with my career. Piled on top of that, for the first time ever on this forum, I've felt uncomfortable. . perhaps unsafe is too strong a word, but that's the one that comes to mind. I've always assumed that no matter how heated things get, at the end of the day we're all friends. I'm not sure of that right now and with all the real-life shit going on in my life right now, the last thing I need is additonal stress from here.
I really do respect this online community and it has been a great blessing to me. I do hope I'll feel I can return soon. In the meantime, I'm out. If you want to reach me, you can do so through PM.
I figure this thread's a good a place as any to make this announcement, and I'm doing this because I know I always wonder what happens when a familiar poster just disappears.
I'm going to be leaving FYM, and Interference in general for an indefinite time period. It could be days, weeks, or longer. . .I don't know. I do think I'll come back at some point. But right now I'm going through some really intense stress with my career. Piled on top of that, for the first time ever on this forum, I've felt uncomfortable. . perhaps unsafe is too strong a word, but that's the one that comes to mind. I've always assumed that no matter how heated things get, at the end of the day we're all friends. I'm not sure of that right now and with all the real-life shit going on in my life right now, the last thing I need is additonal stress from here.
I really do respect this online community and it has been a great blessing to me. I do hope I'll feel I can return soon. In the meantime, I'm out. If you want to reach me, you can do so through PM.
I figure this thread's a good a place as any to make this announcement, and I'm doing this because I know I always wonder what happens when a familiar poster just disappears.
I'm going to be leaving FYM, and Interference in general for an indefinite time period. It could be days, weeks, or longer. . .I don't know. I do think I'll come back at some point. But right now I'm going through some really intense stress with my career. Piled on top of that, for the first time ever on this forum, I've felt uncomfortable. . perhaps unsafe is too strong a word, but that's the one that comes to mind. I've always assumed that no matter how heated things get, at the end of the day we're all friends. I'm not sure of that right now and with all the real-life shit going on in my life right now, the last thing I need is additonal stress from here.
I really do respect this online community and it has been a great blessing to me. I do hope I'll feel I can return soon. In the meantime, I'm out. If you want to reach me, you can do so through PM.
I figure this thread's a good a place as any to make this announcement, and I'm doing this because I know I always wonder what happens when a familiar poster just disappears.
I'm going to be leaving FYM, and Interference in general for an indefinite time period. It could be days, weeks, or longer. . .I don't know. I do think I'll come back at some point. But right now I'm going through some really intense stress with my career. Piled on top of that, for the first time ever on this forum, I've felt uncomfortable. . perhaps unsafe is too strong a word, but that's the one that comes to mind. I've always assumed that no matter how heated things get, at the end of the day we're all friends. I'm not sure of that right now and with all the real-life shit going on in my life right now, the last thing I need is additonal stress from here.
I really do respect this online community and it has been a great blessing to me. I do hope I'll feel I can return soon. In the meantime, I'm out. If you want to reach me, you can do so through PM.
I'm going to be leaving FYM, and Interference in general for an indefinite time period. It could be days, weeks, or longer. . .I don't know. I do think I'll come back at some point.
Well when you break down the human race by color you had a one in what 3 chance of being correct?
In Holland, i doubt if even one in 10 people are black.
That wasn't my point. When he used his anecdote he assumed the person was black, but when we break down the human race by skin color we really for the most part categorize people as white, brown, or black... So if he was going to assume a skin color he basically had 3 choices. I was just showing him a fault in his assumptions.
That wasn't my point. When he used his anecdote he assumed the person was black, but when we break down the human race by skin color we really for the most part categorize people as white, brown, or black... So if he was going to assume a skin color he basically had 3 choices. I was just showing him a fault in his assumptions.
In Holland, i doubt if even one in 10 people are black.
The fault in his thinking is implying or suggesting that race played any part in the crime.
BVS said:... So if he was going to assume a skin color he basically had 3 choices. I was just showing him a fault in his assumptions.
A pretty racist term in itself since the color doesn't make since. Studies have shown that eyewitnesses in crime have usually described Asians as either white or brown.Dont forget our yellow friends
The fault in his thinking is implying or suggesting that race played any part in the crime.
It was a not a black person that did the crime,
it was a person with criminal intend that did the crime
Statistics are not your strong point.
A pretty racist term in itself since the color doesnt make sense
Interesting, I've never met an Asian that referred to themselves as "yellow".maybe you should inform my asian friend instead of making that distinctions yourself....
Why is it okay to describe black people as black when they arent actually black and white people as white when they arent really white? Seems like you were pretty quick to describe those people in those terms
not one of my asian friends has a problem with being referred to as yellow I mean, its not the same as if you'd say "the black guy" or "the white guy", because its much easier to say "the asian guy". But I can honestly say it doesnt offend any of them.
and you could say that black has a double meaning of being "evil".
All I'm saying is that I've heard from MANY Asians that ever since the time of Vietnam "yellow" has been used as a slur.