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Old 10-19-2011, 05:55 PM   #196
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Old 10-19-2011, 05:59 PM   #197
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They could be honest with their customers and tell them that they're increasing fees for the hell of it. The "we have to because it's just too expensive to allow you to use your debit card" line kind of falls flat with 18 billion in profit.
But that is honesty. It does get expensive to give people a free services constantly.

Also, please stop saying $18 billion. The real number for last 3 quarters is a loss of approx. $400 million.
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Old 10-19-2011, 06:49 PM   #198
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Old 10-19-2011, 07:49 PM   #199
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As nice and simple and slogan-y as that picture is, it's a bit more complex than that.

First of all, I've been to many Tea Party events, and there's always at least a few officers around. Second, it's less about the presence or absence of guns, but about their behavior and the resources required to monitor the two groups. Every Tea Party rally I've heard of has been a few hours long in a park somewhere, and then the people go home. OWS is a continuous, 24-hour thing, and right smack in the middle of America's busiest city.

Say what you will about the Tea Party, but they never blocked traffic, or (allegedly) spit on a Coast Guard officer, or (allegedly) had a rape be committed at a rally, or vandalize police vehicles. Perhaps the police feel that given the characteristics of OWS, there is a greater likelihood of violence- or at least physical property damage- breaking out. I think they're correct. It's happened already.
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Who is going to turn a taser on a bunch of racist old white peope and maybe a token colour here and there?

To be honest, I can kind of see the satisfaction of billy clubbing the dreadlocks out of a 20 y/o blonde philosophy student.
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Old 10-19-2011, 08:26 PM   #201
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I can't, and I spend more time around them than probably anyone else in here.

Like 2861 said, when the protest you're talking about takes the form of large numbers of young people camping out for weeks on end right smack in the middle of America's most populous city, inevitably some public order issues are going to arise. Go to the OWS protests that have taken place in Indianapolis for example, which are much more limited in scope, and it's a very different story.
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Old 10-20-2011, 04:55 AM   #202
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I think there are a few banks in the U.S. that still do something like that. If I'm not mistaken, it's generally only for their best customers (like they fucking need it).

It's not like there aren't options out there for banking. Yes, it is not convenient to drive to hell and back or to mail-in your deposit at a single bank or credit union location. But seriously, this is like the airline industry nickel and diming the customers to death, except that I think there are more choices in banks to service you than airlines. This is one time that consumers really do need to vote with their dollars.
haha, i know.

exactly. like steved said, i wish they'd just be honest and tell people they're adding charges and fees to increase their profit margins. be honest about it, because anyone who wants to take a few seconds to search on google will find out their fake reasons are just that, fake.

stuff like this is why i bank with kiwibank (much to ian's chagrin as he works for a different bank, haha), which is owned by the nz government, and in america i bank with a smaller bank. i'm lucky in that there's some smaller banks right by my parents' house, and it will suck whenever i move back to the states and move away because i'll have to switch banks. but i've never regretted closing my bank of america accounts.
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if the tea party were to show up and march through manhattan totting automatic weapons, there would be a rather large police response, as there should be. they wouldn't be met with pepper spray and batons... they'd be met with drawn weapons.

new york city gun laws are incredibly strict. just look at plaxico.

and as for the tea party protests in new york... yea...



cops & barricades? yep, got 'em.


there's plenty of fine, reasonable things to rip the tea party fucknuts apart on. let's stick to ones that are relevant.
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haha, i know.

exactly. like steved said, i wish they'd just be honest and tell people they're adding charges and fees to increase their profit margins. be honest about it, because anyone who wants to take a few seconds to search on google will find out their fake reasons are just that, fake.
Well in the case of banks, it's to replace lost income from other sources. They were forced to give up certain fees, and so they replaced them with new fees.

But either way, even if it was to merely increase their profitability, why would they or should they admit it? It's terrible customer relations to announce "we want more money, so we'll charge you". And we rarely, if ever, see this in any business. When Coke increases prices on cola, or Starbucks increases prices on coffee, they don't ever say the reason why. But isn't it obvious?

I get what you're saying, you wish they were honest with you, because that would make you less angrier. Sort of like in a breakup you would wish your significant other is honest with you. But it in business it is an immensely terrible customer relations strategy.

Same thing in politics: nobody ever runs on a truly honest platform. Obama would have never been elected had he said that the economy will suck, and we will face hardship for the next four years. And even though that would be honesty, the people and media would still destroy him, and he wouldn't have been elected. It's all about public relations.

At the end of the day, if the fees really turn out to be needless and excessive, they will definitely come down via competitive forces.
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There's an Occupy Melbourne being held right now. Fucking pathetic
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Exactly. Looks like they're all self-unemployed hipsters who saw what was happening in NY and thought it would be cool, even though they don't understand what they're protesting about. Where's the tear gas and water cannons?
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4pm Friday. I'm off to #OccupyThePub.
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Exactly. Looks like they're all self-unemployed hipsters who saw what was happening in NY and thought it would be cool, even though they don't understand what they're protesting about. Where's the tear gas and water cannons?
Is that you, Andrew Bolt?

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