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Old 09-30-2004, 09:14 PM   #76
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There's no way in hell a scientific poll could be compiled that fast. The debate hasn't even been done for 2 hours. I don't believe any one of those numbers.
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They tell the same story though, Kerry won the debate, as most of us would agree.

As with the Kerry blog here is the Bush equivalent
http://www.georgewbush.com/DebateFacts/
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"It is the best house because it has something far more important than numbers of people who serve, far more important than numbers of rooms or how big it is, far more important than numbers of magnificent pieces of art."

As Nixon has already explained in his Farewell speech to the White house staff, it is not about the numbers.
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Old 09-30-2004, 09:23 PM   #79
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Are these 2 candidates really the best that the US has to offer??!!! And they wonder why voter turnout is so low?!! I'm not too sure about Kerry but I think only the "most presidential" presidents deserve 2 terms and, IMO, Bush doesn't come close to falling into that category. I don't recall hearing anything about the AIDS emergency or Third World initiatives during the debates...still 2 more debates to go though I guess

I wish Bono was able to run!

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Well, I think voter turnout is low because people simply don't care enough and there will always be people who whine and moan about the choices before them. In addition, people are burned out and the burnout's been a long time coming. This has been long and ugly and we've still got over a month to go. But that's just my opinion, and that's for another thread I suppose.

You didn't hear any mentions of the AIDS crisis or Thirld World initiatives because they were not the platform issues of this evening's debates - the moderator made that quite clear.

I think Kerry did well (anyone else notice that he wasn't sweating? ) He was collected and under control. I can see why people say he shines in debates. I don't think Bush did nearly as well. I think he tried, he came off as a man with passion and conviction a few times, but he appeared flustered at times and he stumbled across his words. This comes as no surprise, we already knew that public speaking isn't his forte.
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So what was this massive 5-second pause by Bush caused by?
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Old 09-30-2004, 09:23 PM   #81
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alleged?

That's like saying I have an alleged nose on my face.
Oh, now that is a great post!
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kerry is thought, right or wrong, to be a guy who wants it both ways. the fact that he stated that the war in iraq "was a colosal (*sp) mistake" and 2 minutes later said that the troops in iraq are not dying for a mistake ain't gonna help him.
If you paid attention, Kerry said voters must distinguish between the war and the warriors. The war was right, but it was wrongfully implemented. The warriors are valuable regardless of how the war has unfolded because of their willingness to risk death in order to promote democracy. As for not supplying troops with bullet proof vests, Kerry pointed out the Bush administration has already invested $200,000,000 of tax payer’s money into the Iraq war. My local police force has bullet proof vests. The American people are losing jobs and their level of healthcare is declining. In Iraq, American military positions surround the Oil Ministry and oil fields. American forces will not enter Najaf or Falluja on a permanent basis to counter ever-growing violence. Bullet proof vests or not, the occupation of a city would also involve armoured vehicles and considerable air support, and it can be done. Upon entering Najaf to subdue terrorists hiding in the Imam Ali Shrine, very few American military personal were killed. Hundreds of Iraqi rebels were killed. Kerry made a good point. What are the American priorities in Iraq?
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What about the missing 10 percent then?
Hiphop 10 percent
Couldn´t they decide, or what?
I am on to you.
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There's no way in hell a scientific poll could be compiled that fast. The debate hasn't even been done for 2 hours. I don't believe any one of those numbers.
CBS conducted a live poll during the debate. Kerry had an overwhelming lead in all categories, including, "Who has a better plan for Iraq?"

However, this debate did not include domestic issues. The town hall debate next Thursday should be much more lively!
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What are the American priorities in Iraq?
1.My money going to Haliburton.

2. Not capturing or killing BinLaden. (He is essential to Keep War on Terror viable!)
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this was a great debate -
I was a little upset that the smackdown didn't occur but then again the VP debate is next week and we have two more presidential debates so I haven't given up hope yet

I still am upset that no one got slapped

Now this is something I would watch! Put a little excitement into the game.
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^Indeed
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They tell the same story though, Kerry won the debate,
They both mentioned Israel.
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Does anyone else feel bad about questioning the Bush administration’s priorities? According to Bush, we’re pessimists, and em’ pessimists bad!
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DaveC,

I think the above mentioned polls had chosen undecided voters beforehand to participate in the opinion polls right after the debate. That's how they were able to get poll results so fast.
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