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Old 01-04-2016, 02:14 PM   #76
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What have I said that is frightening?
In that post? That the "progressive left" is engaging in propaganda to restrict free speech in the West. That's a lie, and either you know that or you are so lacking in intellectual curiosity that you somehow believe it. I'm worried that's the worldview you are presenting to your students.
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Old 01-04-2016, 03:24 PM   #77
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In that post? That the "progressive left" is engaging in propaganda to restrict free speech in the West. That's a lie, and either you know that or you are so lacking in intellectual curiosity that you somehow believe it.

The right isn't pushing hate speech legislation. College campuses are no longer a place where you can go to engage in dialogue and have your beliefs challenged, unless you are of conservative thought. Even liberal professors are scared of offending hyper-sensitive students. Colleges and academia are left wing enclaves. Their Frankenstein thought experiment students are now running the joint.

If it's a lie prove it from your point of view.

PS: Iron Horse, you started this so don't duck out of the argument because I'm giving you some back up.


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The right isn't pushing hate speech legislation. College campuses are no longer a place where you can go to engage in dialogue and have your beliefs challenged, unless you are of conservative thought. Even liberal professors are scared of offending hyper-sensitive students. Colleges and academia are left wing enclaves. Their Frankenstein thought experiment students are now running the joint.

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That's not really how you debate, you don't say that's how it is, now prove me wrong.

Show real example of professors being scared, show real examples of how this is a real problem and not happening on one or two campuses.


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Old 01-04-2016, 03:54 PM   #79
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That's not really how you debate, you don't say that's how it is, now prove me wrong.

Show real example of professors being scared, show real examples of how this is a real problem and not happening on one or two campuses.


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By your rules then everybody must provide citations.

When somebody says "Cruz is a homophobe" I'll expect you to ask them for some kind of link. Amirite?


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By your rules then everybody must provide citations.

When somebody says "Cruz is a homophobe" I'll expect you to ask them for some kind of link. Amirite?


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Yes, everyone should be able to back up their claims. Why do you act like that's such a foreign concept? This worries me.

If some says "_______ is a homophobe", it usually comes in response to something they've said or done, so that is the source.




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Old 01-04-2016, 06:15 PM   #82
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So I'm beginning to see the pattern; professors that made you cite your papers, websites that fact check, and posters that ask for sources = evil liberals trying to curb speech. Presidential candidates that don't fact check and use stats developed by organized hate groups and posters that constantly use numbers that have no backing = good decent conservative real Mericans.

Do I have that right?

Keep mocking those that function using facts. You don't really do the far right any favors by constantly attacking those in pursuit of facts, demonizing science and higher education.

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By your rules then everybody must provide citations.

When somebody says "Cruz is a homophobe" I'll expect you to ask them for some kind of link. Amirite?


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Discussion guidelines in the forum, Oregoropa,

depend entirely on your position.

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Ah, the oppression card. How original. You've become quite the master of it.

Are you in the minority view? Yes
Is that the problem? No
The problem is engagement; most with the minority view in here don't, they just do drive bys. The one or two that try and engage they don't know how to do so. If you want a source for something I post, ask me and you'll receive, without any complaint.

The fact that this has even turn into an issue speaks volumes.


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Get a load of this all encompassing stench of Big Liberalism here on FYM.
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By your rules then everybody must provide citations.

When somebody says "Cruz is a homophobe" I'll expect you to ask them for some kind of link. Amirite?


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That's kinda how debates work in real life. Just as how the Scientific world works. If you're making a bold statement, you are going to need to provide the facts. This could be citations, examples, videos, anything factual and objective. Opinions and other subjective matter aren't quite useful in this case.

When calling someone a homophobe, yes, that would require backing up as well. So if there's a news article or video where this person is spouting shit against homosexuals, that would count as backing up and therefore make the statement legit. Of course it also depends on interpretation of facts, but that's a whole other discussion. On forums we usually take the general interpretation. So in this example, if someone posts on social media about hating them gayz, not wanting them to get married, then yes, people generally assume that this person is homophobic.
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So we're really encouraging people to thoughtlessly throw shit at the wall to see what sticks, huh? No substance required?

Gotta say, I've never heard of the debate format that forces someone to substantiate their opposition's arguments for them. That's a new one.
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The right isn't pushing hate speech legislation. College campuses are no longer a place where you can go to engage in dialogue and have your beliefs challenged, unless you are of conservative thought. Even liberal professors are scared of offending hyper-sensitive students. Colleges and academia are left wing enclaves. Their Frankenstein thought experiment students are now running the joint.

If it's a lie prove it from your point of view.

PS: Iron Horse, you started this so don't duck out of the argument because I'm giving you some back up.


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The left is pushing for it to be illegal for you to beat up gay people while screaming "Faggot!" The left wants that to be more than just simple assault. It's a hate crime. The left wants it to be illegal for you to deny gay people jobs for no other reason than they're gay. Same with firing them.

If you think that's propaganda, if you think that's a restriction on free speech, engage me on that. But your sweeping claims of "left wing enclaves that are squeezing out debate" is laughable and not something I'm going to bother arguing with because you're just making shit up.
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