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Old 04-09-2009, 11:42 AM   #1
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Pirates and terrorism

Dont know if anyone else saw this but on CNN around 7 this morning they did a piece on linking these Somali pirates to Al-Queda. I couldnt hear what was being said, but they were showing pictures of Osama and "terrorists" with rifles shooting and all that. I chuckled because as soon as this recent incident with the pirates broke out i was wondering how long it would take them to link these piracy incidents to the dreaded terrorists.

Is it just me, or does this set off anyone else's bullshit detector?

kind of reminds me of those commercials they put out a while back saying if you smoke pot you support terrorism.
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Old 04-09-2009, 11:55 AM   #2
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I didn't watch CNN this morning.
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Old 04-09-2009, 02:36 PM   #3
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I wouldn't call it total bullshit, but any present al-Qaeda connection is still just a footnote in the grand scheme of Somalia's problems.

It's widely believed by Somalia experts that several pan-Islamist networks, including al-Qaeda, supplied modest quantities of fighters, trainers and weapons to the radical Islamist group Shabab in their 'holy war' against Ethiopia and the US-backed TFG during Somalia's latest major conflict cycle (2006-2009). Shabab now controls southern Somalia, though since the Ethiopian withdrawal in January, a tense standstill seems to be holding between Shabab and TFG, who control central Somalia. The pirates, who have bases along the coast of both regions, have nothing to do with Shabab per se--hardly 'radical Islamists,' they're reportedly hard-drinking, hash-smoking, khat-chewing, swaggering thugs who act every bit the former warlords' mercenaries they mostly are--but, since they do pay 'taxes' to Shabab in exchange for using their ports, there is a kind of symbiotic relationship between the two, which was probably the angle this CNN piece (which I didn't see) was cultivating.
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Old 04-09-2009, 09:49 PM   #4
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Interpreting stories like this all depends on from what perspective you look at it.

I'm not sure if this has occured to anyone else here, but if you approach it from the perspective that the mainstream media is a big stinking pile of shit, piss and puke who are directly complicit in shilling for the neocon globalist agenda - which essentially involves imperialism, mass murder, colonialism and fanatical extreme Zionism - then, oddly enough, the manner in which stories such as this are presented starts to make sense.
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Wait, I thought the media is librul...
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Wait, I thought the media is librul...
The MAINSTREAM media is corporatist, but may at times find it useful to nod in the direction of liberalism.

Fortunately, quite soon there will be no such thing as a mainstream media, and hopefully we will have a genuine free market.

Lady Gaga is one the things thats happening now that shows the way things are going - art is becoming more democratic.
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Lady Gaga is one the things thats happening now that shows the way things are going - art is becoming more democratic.

Care to explain?
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Care to explain?
Over the next few years, we will see a blossoming of creativity and innovation, particularly in 2011/12. A lot of things such as new media, nanotechnology, etc will come together and feed into this. The recession will prove to be a net positive in so far as people will go in for creative careers that otherwise would have been climbing the corporate ladder.

Lady Gaga is symptomatic of those people that are bursting through and coming up from the underground, one of those...wandering minstrels. Flowering buds, as it were.

Important to note that all of this may happen in phases that are not necessarily obvious at the time.

This is not my opinion. This will happen.
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I agree to a certain extent, I just couldn't figure out what Lady Gaga had to do with it... I didn't realize she was underground.
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Pirates and terrorism hijacked by the cultural revolution of Lady Gaga.

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Doesn't really matter if they're related, they should both be dealt with.
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It's not about pirated music.
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Supposedly the one who lived is only 16, if that's true well it would fit an AQ habit of recruiting people as young as that. I have no idea if they are linked to AQ but I think pirating is an act of terrorism. Over 200 mariners are still being held hostage by pirates.

I'm glad the crew and captain are safe-and props to a hearty and tough New Englander and the Mass Maritime Academy
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