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Old 10-31-2012, 07:33 PM   #316
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The sad truth is that it won't ever cost anyone an election. I'd be shocked if it did.
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Old 10-31-2012, 07:37 PM   #317
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The even sadder truth is that there will be women voting for him, and Akin, Mourdock and the others.
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Old 10-31-2012, 07:42 PM   #318
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what is so difficult to understand that many women do not believe in abortion, especially for you people that are supporters of the religions belief systems.
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Old 10-31-2012, 07:44 PM   #319
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The point is that all women human beings should be concerned about words and actions that are belittling, trivializing or dismissive of rape.

I don't care that he's against abortion. And I'm sure he knows that rape is abhorrent and nothing to be trivialized. But words matter, and if people would take two seconds to THINK before speaking, they could avoid coming across like a careless jerk.
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what is so difficult to understand that many women do not believe in abortion, especially for you people that are supporters of the religions belief systems.
My female cousin, a new mother, posted a fierce pro-life status the other day, about people trying to play god
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Old 10-31-2012, 08:12 PM   #321
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what is so difficult to understand that many women do not believe in abortion, especially for you people that are supporters of the religions belief systems.
Why are you bringing up religion again? I get the impression you are only looking for a fight, especially when you say "you people" - how condescending.
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Old 10-31-2012, 08:13 PM   #322
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The point is that all women human beings should be concerned about words and actions that are belittling, trivializing or dismissive of rape.

I don't care that he's against abortion. And I'm sure he knows that rape is abhorrent and nothing to be trivialized. But words matter, and if people would take two seconds to THINK before speaking, they could avoid coming across like a careless jerk.

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Old 11-01-2012, 07:55 AM   #323
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You people? Not surprising I guess.

What Cori said. Being against abortion isn't the point. Anyone can do that and not speak about rape and women in such ways. And not everyone does, just this small portion of fools.

Being pro life and/or religious about it isn't making them fools about the topic- they're ignorant. Of course if someone has a predisposed bias to always connect those things, c'est la vie.
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Old 11-01-2012, 12:38 PM   #324
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The point is that all women human beings should be concerned about words and actions that are belittling, trivializing or dismissive of rape.

I don't care that he's against abortion. And I'm sure he knows that rape is abhorrent and nothing to be trivialized. But words matter, and if people would take two seconds to THINK before speaking, they could avoid coming across like a careless jerk.
More than anything, "the rape thing" betrays his discomfort with the subject. Not a good quality for a man in an authoritative position.

Also, there was nothing wrong with deep's use of "you people". Would you have preferred he said "especially those of you who..."? Because it means the exact same thing. I swear, some people just see certain phrases and assume they're supposed to get offended by them
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Old 11-01-2012, 12:45 PM   #325
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Also, there was nothing wrong with deep's use of "you people". Would you have preferred he said "especially those of you who..."? Because it means the exact same thing. I swear, some people just see certain phrases and assume they're supposed to get offended by them
I was offended with deep's use of "you people" and I have a right to be. That wasn't the first time deep tried to pick a fight with me over my religious beliefs by misinterpreting my complaints over GOP candidates being insensitive to rape victims, and until the mods step in, it won't be the last.

ETA: deep's attempts to lure me into a fight are nothing more than a personal attack. I know when I am offended and I don't need someone to tell me when my feelings are invalid.
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Old 11-01-2012, 12:51 PM   #326
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I was offended with deep's use of "you people" and I have a right to be.
yes, you have a right to be mad. I know that. You guys don't need to point out your rights to a and b everytime you're challenged on something.
He still used the phrase legitimately and the reaction is a knee jerk one.

Instead of getting upset (or in addition to), you could always address the issue he brought up. If you think he's acting like a fool, prove him to be one by showing that his point is nonsense. Otherwise this place is less about debate and more about a forum to bitch and complain about things
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Old 11-01-2012, 01:02 PM   #327
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yes, you have a right to be mad. I know that. You guys don't need to point out your rights to a and b everytime you're challenged on something.
He still used the phrase legitimately and the reaction is a knee jerk one.

Instead of getting upset, you could always address the issue he brought up. If you think he's acting like a fool, prove him to be one by showing that his point is nonsense
Well, deep isn't exactly known for being the nicest guy around FYM; his devil's advocate and sarcastic approach to issues is common knowledge around here. To see him try to bait me into a fight - as I see it - is like seeing his difficulty make a turn for the worse.

I told him before that I don't answer to him, and apparently that went over his head.

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Otherwise this place is less about debate and more about a forum to bitch and complain about things
IMO, deep has bitched and complained about things before, through his sarcastic remarks.

If he really thinks I am being hypocritical because of my religious beliefs and how I react to GOP candidates' insensitive remarks to rape victims (because that is the case. Its not about abortion, but about the attitude towards rape victims), then he should learn to word his posts differently and stop coming across as aggressive.
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Old 11-01-2012, 01:04 PM   #328
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Well, deep isn't exactly known for being the nicest guy around FYM; his devil's advocate and sarcastic approach to issues is common knowledge around here. To see him try to bait me into a fight - as I see it - is like seeing his difficulty make a turn for the worse.

I told him before that I don't answer to him, and apparently that went over his head.
His devils advocate style fucking irritates me as well, so me defending him on this one must mean something
If his style leads people to read all his posts in a negative light, that's his problem. I can understand that. I just felt like maybe he's raising a legitimate point (or at the very least, one that could be challenged by someone) that's being overlooked because of semantics. By all means, ignore him. But if he is just trolling, complaining about it openly only gives him what he wants and contributes noise to the convo.
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Old 11-01-2012, 01:11 PM   #329
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But if he is just trolling, complaining about it openly only gives him what he wants and contributes noise to the convo.
He could be just trolling. Thing is, he's been part of Interference for so long and has always behaved this way, you forget about that possibility.
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Anyway, now I'm contributing noise
Back to your regularly scheduled abortion debate
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