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Old 10-27-2011, 02:42 PM   #16
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Have medical doctors report every miscarriage to ensure that there was no "murder"? Women who have miscarried be questioned by the police?
Wasn't there another state who had tried to pass legislation about having to report miscarriages or something like that? With the intent to be preventing miscarriages that were caused by the mother in lieu of abortion? I'm not remembering the details, but I recall reading discussion about the possible implications of having something like that on the books.
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Old 10-27-2011, 02:54 PM   #17
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after a woman has sex, she should be put under house arrest for 45-60 days, just to make sure no "person' is inside of her that could secretly become a homicide.

of course if the women want to volunteerenly go in and pay a pro-life doctor for a blood test to determine if they have a person inside of them early, the house arrest could be suspended.
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Old 10-27-2011, 03:52 PM   #18
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Did I miss anyone?
Yeah. Woman = Person, unless known, found, or reasonably suspected to perhaps be occupied by another Person comprising one or more embryonic cells, in which case the most basic right associated with being a free Person is ipso facto suspended.

Like anitram said, it's untenable if enforced, which is why NRLC and the Catholic Church are opposing it. But a pretty stark illustration of how dramatically the discourse--not necessarily the attitudes--have changed since pre-Roe days (remember the tape of Nixon lamenting "Abortions encourage permissiveness...A girl gets knocked up...she goes down to the doctor, wants to get an abortion for $5 or whatever" and Chuck Colson agreeing, yes, legalized abortion leads to female "promiscuousness"?) It wasn't the personhood of zygotes that concerned them, and it won't be what concerns most of these voters either.
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Wasn't there another state who had tried to pass legislation about having to report miscarriages or something like that?
I think you might be recalling this story?
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Old 10-28-2011, 04:43 PM   #19
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I want to make sure I have right.

So group of cells = person

Corporation = person

Immigrants = person unless they're brown

Homosexuals = lesser of a person

and

Black person = scary person

Did I miss anyone?
The Unemployed = lesser of a person
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The Unemployed = lesser of a person
Are you proposing a new 3/5ths amendment?
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Old 10-28-2011, 05:01 PM   #21
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I think you might be recalling this story?
Yes, thank you.
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Old 10-28-2011, 05:31 PM   #22
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The Unemployed = lesser of a person
Well it's their fault they don't have a job, Herman Cain taught me that.

I just assumed it was Obama's fault
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Mississippi voters do not embarrass themselves


Mississippi's "Personhood Amendment" fails at polls - CBS
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One of the provisos was that eggs that were fertilized for in vitro couples but not used would have to be saved and put up for adoption.

What a fucking nightmare.
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Thank god some common sense prevailed.
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If someone bought a live chicken and put it in a blender, I would turn them in to the authorities, for animal cruelty.

likewise, I had to turn myself in when I scrambled some eggs and realized one was fertilized.
I killed a chicken.
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"fertilized human egg to be a legal person"


If it is not a human being, then what is it?
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"fertilized human egg to be a legal person"


If it is not a human being, then what is it?
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A constitutional amendment facing voters in Mississippi on Nov. 8, and similar initiatives brewing in half a dozen other states including Florida and Ohio, would declare a fertilized human egg to be a legal person, effectively branding abortion and some forms of birth control as murder.
The porn industry has a very high predominance in Florida, if the proposal passes if wouldn't affect the people described but the porn industry as well.

We are talking about a double-faced piece of legislation that affects a wide range of people and businesses.
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"fertilized human egg to be a legal person"

If it is not a human being, then what is it?
What is a fertilized egg that never implants in the uterine wall?
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