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Old 08-21-2012, 02:04 PM   #211
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Yesterday Phil (husband) and I were talking about something and he said something like, "I guess if Romney wins, things probably won't change for us anyway..." and I said, "Maybe not for YOU but they might for me...."
exactly! i'm not knocking phil at all since i think he's a nice guy and all, but i've heard other people make similar comments. they're all guys.

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I really hate people sometimes. All rape is horrible, no matter how you try to phrase it. By qualifying it with "forcible", you're trying to somehow create varying degrees of rape, which is downright wrong.
exactly. there's non-forcible rape?

"hey girl can i rape you?"
"uhhh no i don't think so"
"aww come on, please?"
"well....okay"

no. all rape involves a man forcing himself on a woman. if we've got to put labels on "kinds" of rape then fine, there's violent and non-violent, but even that i think is a bit ridiculous. no matter whether the woman was passed out drunk or some jerk broke into her home and beat her into submission, she's traumatised. to make it out to be some sort of contest or something as to what's bad rape or good rape or something is unnecessary. whatever happened to just saying rape is wrong no matter what?
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Old 08-21-2012, 02:17 PM   #212
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I love when the Onion tackles current events:
Pregnant Woman Relieved To Learn Her Rape Was Illegitimate | The Onion - America's Finest News Source

And in related news:
Republicans Condemn Akin's Comments As Blemish On Party's Otherwise Spotless Women's Rights Record
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Old 08-21-2012, 02:22 PM   #213
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exactly! i'm not knocking phil at all since i think he's a nice guy and all, but i've heard other people make similar comments. they're all guys.


exactly. there's non-forcible rape?

"hey girl can i rape you?"
"uhhh no i don't think so"
"aww come on, please?"
"well....okay"

no. all rape involves a man forcing himself on a woman. if we've got to put labels on "kinds" of rape then fine, there's violent and non-violent, but even that i think is a bit ridiculous. no matter whether the woman was passed out drunk or some jerk broke into her home and beat her into submission, she's traumatised. to make it out to be some sort of contest or something as to what's bad rape or good rape or something is unnecessary. whatever happened to just saying rape is wrong no matter what?
I think someone might consider statutory (is that the right word??) rape a non forcible rape situation. A 17 year old male has sex with his 15 year old girlfriend while parents are downstairs. Parents find out....

I agree though, rape is rape. Regardless of it being extremely violent or if the gal is drugged.
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Old 08-21-2012, 02:37 PM   #214
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Way to elevate the discussion, Piers.
Yeah, that was my reaction, too. Oooh, you're so bold, sitting there with the camera pointed at his empty chair! One of the TVs at the gym last night was on CNN, so that's the only reason I saw it.

I can't stand that guy.

Another TV was tuned to MSNBC (not a channel I watch often, to be honest; I'd even say I see more of Fox News than I do of MSNBC, but ANYWAY), and on Rachel Maddow's show, she was demonstrating how public figures have had many appalling things to say about rape over the years. So gross.
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Way to elevate the discussion, Piers.
Even so, for Akin to leave an empty chair like that was cowardly to me.
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no. all rape involves a man forcing himself on a woman. if we've got to put labels on "kinds" of rape then fine, there's violent and non-violent, but even that i think is a bit ridiculous. no matter whether the woman was passed out drunk or some jerk broke into her home and beat her into submission, she's traumatised. to make it out to be some sort of contest or something as to what's bad rape or good rape or something is unnecessary. whatever happened to just saying rape is wrong no matter what?
I know! So if somebody rufies you at a bar and then rapes you that's somehow a less bad rape because they didn't also beat the shit out of you at the same time? Then again if you were at the bar, obv you were dressed provocatively and deserved it according to some of these enlightened individuals.
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this is something to watch

Todd Akin reaffirms decision to stay in - won't pull out


time is running out, Akin says his entry is legitimate

if he does not pull out the GOP will have to take extreme measures to abort him
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Even so, for Akin to leave an empty chair like that was cowardly to me.
not his fault, an assistant was supposed to remove the chair
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Rep. Steve King: I’ve Never Heard Of A Girl Getting Pregnant From Statutory Rape Or Incest | TPM2012

Sigh.

Yes, so apparently he meant "I don't know anyone PERSONALLY this has happened to."

Well, then I'm so glad he decided to make a statement about it.

Please alert the media: I've never heard of a man raping a woman.




.... oh sorry, I meant I didn't PERSONALLY know any men who raped women. Jeez, get the context right!
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Todd Akin reaffirms decision to stay in - won't pull out.
Probably a poor choice of words there.
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One of the news channels last night had a "pull out" headline on the screen. I laughed.

(Inwardly. I can't appear to be laughing or talking to myself at the gym. It's unseemly.)
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I watched the second half of the gold medal soccer match on the treadmill and I was visibly cheering several times. So, yeah, I'm that weird guy at the gym.
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It's fine for other people to do it. Me, I'm the one bobbing her head to the iPod's rhythm, even if the feet are moving to a different beat.
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Yes, so apparently he meant "I don't know anyone PERSONALLY this has happened to."
Or, what we like to call "conclusive evidence."
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Even so, for Akin to leave an empty chair like that was cowardly to me.
I find Piers' reaction just as cowardly, and a lot more childish.
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