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Old 06-19-2010, 03:31 PM   #46
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I honestly think Miley doesn't owe anyone a 'perfect' anything. She's a 17 year old. She's going to screw up, get used to it. Yes, she's a celeb, but is that her fault or ours? I'd say that's our fault. And, really, why does this mean she can't go stupid for awhile, just because younger girls might be looking at her and considering what she's doing fun and interesting. rather than rigidly shutting her off and refusing to let your kids watch the show, the better conversation would be to simply explain that you don't approve of her current behavior. Remember, Hannah Montana is a fictional character. She's not real. Miley Cyrus is a real human being who isn't perfect. It's better to teach your kids the different between a fictional character and a real person.

And, really, none of what Miley does will have half as much impact on your kid as you think it does. She /might/ decide to copy her. But then again, she's six. She's as likely to copy you tomorrow. Because, oh, hai, Mom, She's Looking At You to inform her life more than she's Looking At Miley. They don't care nearly as much as adults do. the less fuss you make, the less inclined she'll be to wonder what you're talking about.

I remember my mother making no fuss whatsoever about me listening to Prince in all his raunchy glory as a kid. And the only thing about him I ever wanted to emulate was his singing and the whole 17 instrument thing. I wasn't even slightly interested in the rest (well, except for the hair. And some of the clothes. The no-butt chaps, however, was cause for much comedic impersonations with me and my brother. My mother thought it was very funny.)

I think parents worry so much they drive their kids right into what they don't want them to do, personally. You forget the first rule of childhood: The more you tell them not to, the more they want to. I can't tell you how many times I was told never to do x and heard, "I double-dog-dare you to do it."
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Old 06-19-2010, 03:48 PM   #47
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I think parents worry so much they drive their kids right into what they don't want them to do, personally. You forget the first rule of childhood: The more you tell them not to, the more they want to. I can't tell you how many times I was told never to do x and heard, "I double-dog-dare you to do it."
. My thoughts exactly. Excellent post.

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Old 06-22-2010, 02:18 AM   #48
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Thank you. Name me a 17 year old that DOESN'T have sexual thoughts or try to act "grown-up" and explore their sexuality and I'll be incredibly curious about how their hormones are working.

And then of course the "she's a bad role model" argument. Last time I checked, she wasn't the parent of your kids, you were, so if what she's doing really bothers you THAT much then, um, turn off the TV? She's not responsible for how your kids turn out, quit expecting her or any other teen star to be the role model. That's what parents are for.

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Exactly!

Miley is 17 or 18 and those girls are 11 or 12 or 13, they're in different places regarding physical/hormonal development of course.

The idea that because she is in the public eye, she has to quell any sexual expressions whatsoever is more than ridiculous.

As you said about Britney and Christina, this is far from new. In fact, anyone remember Forrest Gump? Mom is walking Forrest through town and Elvis is on in some window. She grabs the kid and says "this is not for children's eyes!!"

Yes, that Elvis that your grandparents listen to and go and see impersonations of on Saturday nights!!

People said the same about Madonna, list goes on, and on and on and on..........................

In general, people are always claiming that society as we know it will end with this generation because of x, y or z and by the way, that goddamn famous slut__________________________(fill in the blank).

It is, in a word, B.S.

Thats not to say I would hold up Britney as the classiest gal in the world, nor would I want her a role model for my kids, but she's entitled to her sexuality so long as what she does isn't illegal.

As for what Devlin said, I agree 100%.

We are obsessed with don't do this, and don't do that and don't pay attention to Miley or whoever.

Guess what? Beyond the obvious of not breaking the law, of being polite and respectful to people, of always doing your best in every situation, my parents had no iron clad list of what to do and not to do.

There was never any "you'll be sorry if you do x, or wait until you see how miserable life is if you do y or God will turn a certain sexual organ blue and make it fall off if you use it before you're married."

Thats not to say there weren't things that my brother or I did that were unacceptable to them, like not telling them where we were once, or screwing off for almost an entire quarter in high school, as reflected on our report cards.(we were in driver's ed and interested in driving and nothing else at the time, didn't care, still had a 3.9 overall in high school)

I was never in trouble, never arrested, never came home later than they wanted me home, never drank at a friend's when I could have, etc.

Why? Because there was a mutual respect and trust based relationship between us, and I knew they both worked hard and tried to raise me right, so I really did not want to let them down.

I wasn't allowed to listen to gangster rap "f this, f that, shoot my n word" albums in 3rd or 4th grade, but my parents were not about to worry about some low class idiot like Britney Spears or Eminem affecting my decision making in my teenage years. Seriously, if you have to worry about what Britney is wearing or Eminem is writing affecting your 12+ yr old kids, then you are not a very good parent.
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For those who do not know, I work security at concerts in the Boston area(it got me down at the stage for U2 in Somerville) and did a Miley Cyrus show back stage last October.

No joke, she walked right by me as I was talking to a co worker and asked in a flirtatious tone if all Boston boys "had nice accents like me."

Not going to lie, I turned beat red.

Though even the thought was wrong on so many levels.

We get in deep shi% for talking to artists before they talk to us or if they are clearly not receptive, and her personal bodyguard was right there so I didn't know what to say in response. He burst out laughing, so I felt comfortable saying "I think I sound horrible, but I'm flattered you like it and good luck tonight, Miss Cyrus."
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Perez put this pic up today.

Fill In The Blank | PerezHilton.com

Obviously I'm in the minority but wtf, she needs to put some more clothes on.
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I think she needs to put some more clothes on too-but I also think that was a rather obvious f you from him. He enjoys the attention.
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Just out of curiosity, how many of us here in FYM are in the regular habit of "expressing our sexuality"? I'm guessing most of us treat that aspect of ourselves as something at least somewhat more private that we share with certain individuals that we choose, rather than anyone who happens to be passing by (or has a camera). Does that mean we're all a bunch of uptight individuals all shamed by our own sexuality? I doubt it.

It just occured to me as odd that somehow we're ending up defending to the bitter end someone's right to express their sexuality, when most of us tend to keep it more to ourselves.

I have no judgements against Miley Cyrus or anyone else. . .that's their perogative but I don't know that I feel that such a "vocal" expression of one's sexuality is something to be admired.
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every time i post.
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every time i post.
I would disagree. In no way have you ever reduced yourself to your sexual orientation being the sum total of who you are. In fact you've always fought against being minimized in that way.

But that's not what I was talking about any way. I was talking about sexual expression not orientation.

(BTW:I recognize you weren't being entirely serious, but I just wanted to clarify myself anyway. )
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Just out of curiosity, how many of us here in FYM are in the regular habit of "expressing our sexuality"?
That's a hard question, because how in the world do you define something that could mean any range of things from one person to the next?
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Just out of curiosity, how many of us here in FYM are in the regular habit of "expressing our sexuality"? I'm guessing most of us treat that aspect of ourselves as something at least somewhat more private that we share with certain individuals that we choose, rather than anyone who happens to be passing by (or has a camera). Does that mean we're all a bunch of uptight individuals all shamed by our own sexuality? I doubt it.

It just occured to me as odd that somehow we're ending up defending to the bitter end someone's right to express their sexuality, when most of us tend to keep it more to ourselves.

I have no judgements against Miley Cyrus or anyone else. . .that's their perogative but I don't know that I feel that such a "vocal" expression of one's sexuality is something to be admired.
You raise a fine point and some excellent questions. I personally am not saying I admire or even agree with the way she lives her life-like I said early on in the thread, I don't know her, I don't have kids who would watch her, her life has no bearing on mine, so in the end I really honestly don't care if she dressed like a Puritan or dressed the way she is now, it's not my concern. I merely meant with that "expression" line that she's acting no different from how other young people have acted through the ages-dressing sorta provocatively, trying to prove she's "growing up", all that sort of thing. People may think it right, wrong, marketed, sincere, cool, stupid, whatever, and that's fine, it's your opinion and you're entitled to it, but it's nothing new, and that's all I really meant.

You're right, I'm personally very, very conservative with things relating to sex. That's how I wish to live my life. Some people, however, aren't, some people are awfully brazen and open about their sexuality. And on the one hand, I sit there and think, "I don't really need to know/see this, there is a thing called discretion and mystery", but on the other hand, I do find people like that kinda interesting. Of course it certainly doesn't mean that they're comfortable with sex and I'm not, but I guess given the way our culture at large seems to be really confused about sex and how open about it people (especially women) should be, it's always more interesting when someone's so "out there" with it. If that makes any sense.

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That's a hard question, because how in the world do you define something that could mean any range of things from one person to the next?
A fair point. For the sake of argument, we could limit it to the type of overt "expression" (if we can agree that's what Miley et. al are engaging in) we are discussing in this particular thread.
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that is something that gays do

the rest of us just behave normally
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that is something that gays do

the rest of us just behave normally


it's true.

when you talk about going on dates, it's about buying tacos for college girls on Tuesday.

when i talk about dates, it's about behavior and acts.










/sorry, didn't mean to derail the thread ...
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