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Old 09-29-2008, 05:33 PM   #16
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wow, this is incredibly close to my own experience with my grandmother who died this past June. i *adored* her, and one of the worst things i have gone through was watching her suffer, to be spoon fed pureed food and to see her blank, confused look whenever we'd visit. and she was in a great nursing home.

i am certain that if she had known what the final 5 years of her life were going to be like, she would have done something about it.
I'm really sorry. I can relate to that also. My grandmother who I'm very close to has alzheimer's. She still remembers me and can eat on her own, but she is becoming a very different person. It's hard to visit because she's not the person I've always known, but I still love her and want to help as much as I can.
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Old 09-29-2008, 06:07 PM   #17
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Old 09-29-2008, 08:53 PM   #18
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Being pro-life means defending life and yes, sometimes defending suffering.
Becaue if we allow ourselves to prescribe death as a relief from suffering than we play God. And there is no greater sin than that.
So your believe takes my liberty to decide when my very own quality of life has diminished to a point that it is not worth going on anymore.
Taking a drug that makes me passing out and die is as much "playing God" as putting someone on a life-support, keeping him artificially alive and pump his body with drugs to keep functioning.
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Old 09-29-2008, 08:58 PM   #19
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Being pro-life means defending life and yes, sometimes defending suffering.

Becaue if we allow ourselves to prescribe death as a relief from suffering than we play God. And there is no greater sin than that.
And that sin is irrelevant, I have sovereignty over my own body and should have the right to choose.

Your concept of God should have no bearing on the law, if you believe that euthanasia is a sin (or stem cell research, or abortion, or blood transfusions etc.) then you should have the right to cling on, but don't be totalitarian and enforce your theology upon unwilling parties. A quick death seems infinitely better than having your very identity break down.
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Old 09-30-2008, 05:34 AM   #20
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Being pro-life means defending life and yes, sometimes defending suffering.
Becaue if we allow ourselves to prescribe death as a relief from suffering than we play God. And there is no greater sin than that.
I find it curious how the pro-lifers speak of this when it's part of a hotly argued topic, like euthanasia or stem cell research. It seems to be ignored that every day in hospitals all around the world doctors are playing God; turning off life support machines, prescribing antibiotics or penicillin, intervening in the course of nature, prolonging and shortening life at the very start in utero and at the very end in aged and critical care. The practice of medicine and medical science are all about intervening.
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Old 09-30-2008, 08:22 AM   #21
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i think our duty should be to carry out their last known wishes made of sound mind, whatever they may be.
That's not what this baroness person is talking about, whoever she is. She's talking about our wishes, not theirs-that's the point. About easing our burden-and the healthcare system's. Many people with dementia have never voiced those wishes, and it gets to be too late. It's not up to us to voice them for them merely to ease our burdens and to state that they have some duty to die. Why don't we then say that drug addicts, alcoholics, diabetics, people with ALS, any number of people have a duty to die?
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Why don't we then say that drug addicts, alcoholics, diabetics, people with ALS, any number of people have a duty to die?
She may agree with all of that as well, actually - wouldn't surprise me.
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