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Old 01-18-2013, 11:53 PM   #76
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I know, it really makes me sad that there are people who think that, and that there are a lot of them.
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Old 01-19-2013, 12:35 AM   #77
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I think Sean Hannity uses the phrase "far leftist radical" on an hourly basis when he talks about Obama. And if you were here in FYM the last few years, you know some believe that line hook, line, and sinker.

When you ask them for examples... well that's an entirely different story.
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Old 01-19-2013, 12:48 AM   #78
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I think that's the biggest reason things have gotten so heated in here. There have been some conservative posters here over the years who've managed to have great, healthy debates with the more liberal-minded, and there's even been times that both sides have come to agreement on certain things.

But with some of the more recent stuff, it's hard to really have much patience anymore for anyone who espouses the same old, "Gay marriage will hurt society!"/"Obama is a secret socialist" stuff of that sort, and unfortunately that cropped up in some discussions. I'm certainly sorry if any conservatives feel like they've been chased away from here, and definitely can sympathize with them having to go head to head with a group of people by themselves. But at the same time, if they're going to reiterate the sorts of beliefs I just alluded to, when there are facts to clearly contradict such beliefs, and when they're surrounded by people whom those beliefs directly insult, and so on, then it really shouldn't be a surprise to them that people are going to get angry and frustrated. You can be a conservative and not go to the "gay marriage is bad and Obama's a socialist" well, and if you do, then be prepared to deal with people confronting you about it.

And sometimes it became hard to tell whether or not they were serious or joking. If they were serious, that's upsetting, and if they were joking, well, it's cute and funny at first, but after a while it gets rather old.
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Old 01-19-2013, 11:19 AM   #79
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But with some of the more recent stuff, it's hard to really have much patience anymore for anyone who espouses the same old, "Gay marriage will hurt society!"/"Obama is a secret socialist" stuff of that sort, and unfortunately that cropped up in some discussions. I'm certainly sorry if any conservatives feel like they've been chased away from here, and definitely can sympathize with them having to go head to head with a group of people by themselves. But at the same time, if they're going to reiterate the sorts of beliefs I just alluded to, when there are facts to clearly contradict such beliefs, and when they're surrounded by people whom those beliefs directly insult, and so on, then it really shouldn't be a surprise to them that people are going to get angry and frustrated. You can be a conservative and not go to the "gay marriage is bad and Obama's a socialist" well, and if you do, then be prepared to deal with people confronting you about it.
I absolutely agree with this. It did get frustrating and that's probably why us liberals got so hostile toward conservatives because some of them didn't care who they were hurting.

As for everyone else, here's what I suggest: take risks here and start a thread for debate - about anything you think would be good to talk about. Don't hesitate, don't coyly bring up your beliefs that you firmly believe in, and don't wait for someone else to open the door of opportunity for you. In other words, take action around here! You want to chat about polyamory? Start a thread. You're curious about anarchy? Start a thread. You want to discuss neo-pagan religions? Start a thread. There's plenty of room to discuss many things here.

What I am saying is, go for it. Of course, be open to debate and get ready for anyone pointing out whatever flaws you have in your viewpoint. But, really - don't hesitate if you really want to share with others whatever interests you or what you think could provide a good topic. And if you're not an American, feel free to add some global spice in here with a thread about Russia or India or wherever; we could use it.
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Old 01-20-2013, 04:59 AM   #80
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At the risk of presenting as a hypocrite (after all I start few if any threads), I would wager that part of the problem is the tendency for threads here to be 'ripped from the headlines'.

OMG somebody in (insert state/city here) did such and such.

OMG.
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Old 01-20-2013, 07:45 PM   #81
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Seriously. What else can be said other than "fuck that guy"?

How about "where were his parents"?
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Old 01-20-2013, 07:58 PM   #82
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I agree.

I'm not a fan of Pat Robertson and as a Christian I disagree with some
of his views.

But what PhilsFan stated is true about the exchange of ideas here.

We can do better methinks.
Hey Iron Horse, in the friendliest way possible, I'd suggest that your posts could help the situation around here a bit. You obviously like reading and posting here, but so often, your responses are little more than slogans that skirt around the discussions. I know you must have some interesting perspectives to add. Just go out on a limb sometimes and speak for yourself; you seem very guarded. As often as you post here, I don't think anyone has a sense of your real personality. Open up a little
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Old 01-20-2013, 08:08 PM   #83
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Anyone else think part of the problem with discussion here and in society in general (I'm looking at you, USA) is that everyone is so focused on "the left" or "the right". It's almost become like a sporting event where you're playing/cheering for your team against the other. It's way too over simplified. I refuse to label myself in any such way. I'd like to think I actually consider issues individually before making up my mind what side of the debate I'll be on. Some issues I'd be on the 'left', some on the 'right', and as such those labels are meaningless. They only serve to give people a team to cheer for and a kneejerk group to blame when things don't go your way
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Anyone else think part of the problem with discussion here and in society in general (I'm looking at you, USA) is that everyone is so focused on "the left" or "the right". It's almost become like a sporting event where you're playing/cheering for your team against the other. It's way too over simplified. I refuse to label myself in any such way. I'd like to think I actually consider issues individually before making up my mind what side of the debate I'll be on. Some issues I'd be on the 'left', some on the 'right', and as such those labels are meaningless. They only serve to give people a team to cheer for and a kneejerk group to blame when things don't go your way
IMO, that's exactly the problem.
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How about "where were his parents"?
Pat Robertson's? I don't know. Fighting the Civil War?
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Pat Robertson's? I don't know. Fighting the Civil War?
And you call fat jokes easy
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Old 01-21-2013, 12:32 AM   #89
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What can I say? I'm old - I go for what I know.
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Pat Robertson's? I don't know. Fighting the Civil War?

That was his grandparents.

His parents were Southerners fighting a different battle.

Civil Rights.


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Robertson was a typical Byrd Democrat, and was very conservative on social issues. He was chairman of the U.S. Senate Committee on Banking, Housing, and Urban Affairs from 1959 until 1966. In 1956, Robertson was one of the 19 senators who signed The Southern Manifesto, condemning the U.S. Supreme Court decision in Brown vs. Board of Education and the resulting public desegregation.

When President Lyndon Johnson sent his wife, Lady Bird, on a train trip through the South to encourage support for the Civil Rights and Voting Rights Acts, Robertson was one of four Southern Senators who refused to meet with her on the whistle-stop trip.
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