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Old 06-27-2016, 06:15 AM   #106
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Even if he had 3 hours, the time it takes for one man to maul down 50 people is FAR more fast and efficient with one of those semiautomatics than with a couple handguns. THat would require him to switch guns, giving people the opportunity to overpower him. Plus, he'd have far less bullets, less bullets a minute... how do you not see the difference?

Id be careful with a bit of what you're saying there. Someone proficient with a firearm is difficult to overpower regardless. The handgun he had was also semi automatic, as are most handguns. Fast enough where he could've still shot nearly as many people. I think where the rifle comes into play as being far worse is two things: first, it's a higher velocity weapon that does a lot more damage. So, it's going to kill more people when they get shot. Second, in a shootout, the difference in rate of fire becomes noticeable. Responding officers are at a severe disadvantage, which is what allowed this to become a hostage situation.

I still agree with what you're getting at... but no patron was going to overpower this guy were he just using handguns. This was highly premeditated.
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Old 06-27-2016, 03:49 PM   #107
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a weapon you aim with two hands, a shoulder, and sights close to your eye is also orders of magnitude more accurate.
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a weapon you aim with two hands, a shoulder, and sights close to your eye is also orders of magnitude more accurate.

Not to make some kind of argument out of this... but he opened fire into a packed club. Obviously an assault rifle is more accurate, but I doubt he was aiming during the majority of his shooting more than just ringing off shots.
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at the risk of sounding creepy as hell...you'd be surprised how much you'd need to aim.
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I mean, I just dont agree.
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Well thank goodness she had the Constitutional right to annihilate her family.
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New attack at Istanbuls airport. 3rd largest in Europe. Explosions and guns.


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Oh no.
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2 suicide bombers hit the security lines. Turkey has had its rash of terrorism that goes under reported, probably because it's the crossroads of civilization and not in the industrialized west. However, this time I expect more coverage since they hit the international gateway to Turkey and some of the dead are likely to be foreign nationals.


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It's sad all around. My fiance and I were out for ice cream last weekend and an awkward person with a big bag was sitting two tables away from us. Seemed far fetched that someone in Wisconsin would shoot up an ice cream parlor, but you just never know any more.

We decided to move to the patio because at least we figured if she started shooting up the place, we'd have enough of a head start to get out of there safely.
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It's sad all around. My fiance and I were out for ice cream last weekend and an awkward person with a big bag was sitting two tables away from us. Seemed far fetched that someone in Wisconsin would shoot up an ice cream parlor, but you just never know any more.
Considering there was a shooting at the prom in fucking tiny Antigo of all places, yes, I agree with you.

I had a dream a few weeks ago that there was an active shooter at work. That was really disturbing.

And then I started thinking about it (not the first time I'd thought of it). I work for a very well-known company who puts itself out there publicly on certain issues, and it's not hard to imagine some whackjob would target us - more likely a store than our corporate office, but again, you never know.

And this week, new in the building, are updated emergency procedures, including, of course, what to do in case of a shooter.

I don't want to live on this planet in this country anymore.

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