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Old 02-22-2018, 12:51 PM   #1
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Ongoing Mass Shooting Thread #3... that's right, a third thread. Because 'Murica.

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‘And then you go the further step, and that’s the movies. ‘You see these movies, and they’re so violent a kid is able to see the movie if sex isn’t involved, but killing is involved, and maybe we need to put a rating system for that."

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Here's a list of the NRA's enemies...per the NRA

NRA’s List of Anti-Gunners | Second Amendment Check
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Here's the NRA score card for my state, one district...there is some pattern here

https://www.nrapvf.org/grades/Arizona/
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My rhetoric was over the top. I was angry. I still am.


I was overly dismissive in my reply to you as well, and for that I apologise.

(Replying here b/c the other thread is closed).
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Old 02-22-2018, 12:59 PM   #5
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National...

And the NRA doesn't assign the grades. Their PAC, the "Political Victory Fund" does. Because they know...victory matters

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.f25857f0c17e
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I was overly dismissive in my reply to you as well, and for that I apologise.

(Replying here b/c the other thread is closed).
Fair enough.

I am just incredibly angry about this. I was home as Parkland happened, on Twitter, and watched this unfold in real time and got an alert from my kid's school during (it was a rainy day so pickup was changed...fkn seriously? Text alert for that at that moment?). Not that any of that is needed to be angry, but this was visceral for me.

And I have been part of the political machine. But not party. Non-political staff (that is hilarious, BTW) and researcher for campaigns. I no longer participate in the machinery. But I am intimately familiar with how the NRA crushes candidates through PACs.

Whatever...we need a change
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Fewer people in public life chill my blood the way Wayne Lapierre and now Dana Loesch do.

And that includes Trump.
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None of those people bother me. They're cynical, and playing a political game, and that's why political cynics do. They can be expected to act a certain way, in certain situations. That I understand and know how to deal with.

The people who scare me are the extreme ideologues...the true believers like Pence or (shudder) Santorum. People who are so blindly devoted to any one ideology that they're ruthless in the application of their dogma.

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Fewer people in public life chill my blood the way Wayne Lapierre and now Dana Loesch do.

And that includes Trump.
maybe because Trump is just a malleable narcissist and the other two are actually intelligent and evil? And motivated to push an agenda other than their own name?

Trump has way more opportunity to do damage, but the other two are Damage Inc (with apologies to Metallica. Except Lars. He's a dick).
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Santorum.
Heh...

(regular reader/listener of Savage Love/cast)

they are the true believers. But there has to be some cynical in there, like Pence's staged walkout of the NFL game...
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Dana Loesch is like a credible, professional version of Kellyanne Conway.
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Regarding sympathizing with and being affected by what the kids at Parkland were experiencing the day of the shooting, it was heartbreaking, during that town hall last night, to hear the stories from the kids who had to grow up doing active shooter drills in their schools. I never had that growing up. Even after Columbine, we didn't implement that at my schools. I think my sister might've had a couple lockdown drills towards the end of her time in high school, but if so, that was all.

To think about the fact that children are learning this stuff from the time they're old enough to go to school is just insane, and I truly can't believe we've just accepted that as the norm now in our country, instead of immediately decided, "Yeah, our children shouldn't have to think about or be taught how to hide from shooters at school."

And this idea that we need to essentially make our schools look like prisons with all this talk of metal detectors and guards and bulletproof windows and whatnot is equally as ridiculous. If some nutjob can't get a gun in the first place, you wont' NEED any of that stuff, geniuses. That's the whole point.

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Here's the NRA score card for my state, one district...there is some pattern here

https://www.nrapvf.org/grades/Arizona/
I'd need to sign up to look up the grades for my state, but I do know the politicians in my state are very NRA-friendly in general. I am ITCHING for the chance to kick Ernst, Grassley, King (especially King, 'cause he is frightening on so many levels), and the like out of office at the first opportunity.
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And this idea that we need to essentially make our schools look like prisons with all this talk of metal detectors and guards and bulletproof windows and whatnot is equally as ridiculous. If some nutjob can't get a gun in the first place, you wont' NEED any of that stuff, geniuses. That's the whole point. .
Yes, but nut jobs can get guns. So the question is, what can you do to prevent them from getting guns, and what do you do in the interim to keep schools safe until that day comes?
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