Irvine511
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That doesn’t make any sense at all.
Ongoing Mass Shooting Thread #3... that's right, a third thread. Because 'Murica.
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LuckyNumber7
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Lol you’re fun. Glad you tried. This is almost as good as your racist tirades about how you care about black people and democrats are the real racists.
Bluer White
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More people die in a single mass incident when the criminal uses a semi-automatic rifle, with large clips and/or clips that can be modified to be even larger without much effort. Or so I've read.
But I think we're all aware of the deaths by handguns, due to suicide and due to criminality. Gun violence due to a handgun dwarfs everything else, easily. By tens of thousands. Is that what Gzusfrk is getting at?
And there's little appetite to ban handguns in the states, regardless of party.
DaveC
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the "independent conservative" has spoken.
LuckyNumber7
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More people die in a single mass incident when the criminal uses a semi-automatic rifle, with large clips and/or clips that can be modified to be even larger without much effort. Or so I've read.
But I think we're all aware of the deaths by handguns, due to suicide and due to criminality. Gun violence due to a handgun dwarfs everything else, easily. By tens of thousands. Is that what Gzusfrk is getting at?
And there's little appetite to ban handguns in the states, regardless of party.
His original post indicated that this incident was something that “liberals” neglected this incident because of some wack ass reasons of identity politics (a “liberal” senator was giving a pitch to our representatives to curb gun violence as the event occurred and sadly had to go off script to use this as an example). First of all, the perpetrator was like, half Asian? That’s basically white in fucking California. Second, people are becoming desensitized to this bullshit. It’s sad to say, but “only” two people were killed in this shooting. We have a serious sensationalism issue in global western society, and two people dying in a school shooting isn’t tragic enough anymore to sell on cable news as a national tragedy.
So here you have a poster running in here criticizing those who are opposed to... school shootings? We are opposed to school shootings here. But we are being criticized because we didn’t oppose this one loud enough because some 14 year old boy was... because he was only 50% white and didn’t use an AR-15? That sounds a lot to me like he’s coming in here to convince himself that liberals just gate white people and guns irrationally. That’s what he’s effectively doing.
Reality? Ask any liberal. They’ll agree it’s a tragedy. Ask most pragmatic liberals. They’ll agree with you about the little appetite to ban handguns. That’s just not something most people either (1) believe in or (2) think is realistic to fight for.
So taking a look at the dumb race card, nobody came out with a “narrative.” We just have a shitty media that will make more deaths mean more dollars, and more media that makes people talk more. Someone getting shot in Chicago happens daily, and neither side of the media is interested in reporting on that beyond the local level because quite simply it happens all the time and there’s nothing sensational or financially interesting about reporting on it. Name me every mass shooter that wasn’t white from San Bernadino to Pulse to Dallas and beyond and you’ll have most liberals saying “take their high powered weaponry away.” Some conservatives will day “ban muslims, these people don’t assimilate, no fly lists, BLM/Antifa are terrorists” yada yada yada. So, I picked on the “assault rifle” point of his because it was a low hanging fruit. Much like how America has gone after it as a low hanging fruit (except gzus). You’re right, gang violence, crime, handguns, all these themes are bigger and worse on the gun side of things that get largely overlooked. Overlooking that stuff because the media is focused on cashing in doesn’t mean that stopping people from accessing highly powered weapons won’t stop the most sensational of shooting sprees. I mean, look around, take the entire Western world’s population minus the USA and ask yourself where shooting sprees happen, and how often they rack up deaths like they do here. I can think of two or three - Paris, a highly sophisticated ISIS terrorist attack, Norway was it? And Christchurch. Two white nationalist attacks of the same style. Proof that if the shooters really want to do it, they still can, but evidence enough that billy bob the sophomore can’t do the same if he’s angry or demented in some way.
Moonlit_Angel
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The point: . ------>
Your head.
ETA: I'd also argue that one big reason the response to these shootings has become so muted in here is because there's been SO GODDAMN MANY OF THEM, to the point where it feels almost pointless to keep rehashing the same sentiments over and over and over and over and over and over again. Seriously, what more is there to say that hasn't already been said in response to every other shooting?
We in here are pretty much all in agreement that stronger gun control is needed at this point, and we're ready to support any policies and politicians who will take up that fight and make that happen. Where you're getting the idea that we're being selective about our outrage is beyond me. If you want to direct your outrage somewhere, focus it on the GOP. They're the ones who need to get on board with this. They love to go on and on all the time about how 'pro-life" they are, it's way past time for them to put their money where their mouths are and join the rest of us in actually doing something about this shit already.
Or, pretty much what LN7 said.
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BVS
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When was the last time we had a parody account posting in here? This is some good stuff [emoji106]
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Shooting at a Walmart in Oklahoma.
Not sure if the right weapon or number of casualties yet so unclear if it meets gzus' standards of whether or not I should care yet.
Not sure if the right weapon or number of casualties yet so unclear if it meets gzus' standards of whether or not I should care yet.
Irvine511
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Hewson
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Nobody mentioned the backyard shooting in California yesterday at the football viewing party.
Probably cause nobody in LA cares about the Rams and by extension their fans.
Probably cause nobody in LA cares about the Rams and by extension their fans.
DaveC
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oh darn guys, we missed prostrating ourselves in grief and apoplectic outrage over one shooting. that means that we as a collective clearly do not care and are obviously all extreme democrat hypocrites only here to score cheap political points, unlike our local independent paragon of virtue and morality who always feels deep sympathy and pain for all the victims of every single shooting in america (as long as they're not lazy entitled socialist poors who should have used their bootstraps to dodge or deflect the bullets), and would never for an instant consider using them to make a political point.
shame on all of us hypocrites for not acting in a pure gzus-like manner.
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Moonlit_Angel
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Just read an article about it earlier-sounds like it happened in the parking lot. A guy killed two people in a car, and then killed himself. The police seem to think thus far that this was some kind of personal dispute.
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Oh. In that case I don't care. Cause gzus
LuckyNumber7
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Also he might have been 1/16th Inuit, and we don’t wanna fuck with our grand ol party’s narrative. Best we just not be outraged by this one. You know, to maintain our illusion that we find gun violence to be an issue. You know, the illusion we maintien as a partisan effort in order to undermine the opposition. You know, the opposition who actively is trying to do something about said gun violence.
Moonlit_Angel
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Well, yeah, of course, why would we care? I mean, it's not like any shoppers or workers are going to be rattled by seeing police cars outside and knowing there are three dead bodies out there, or had to find themselves wondering, if only briefly, whether or not this was going to be another El Paso or anything, right? Totally normal for people to sort out their personal disputes with gunfire in public, after all.
DaveC
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my company's london office is literally across the street from where today's attack happened. several of my colleagues were outside the building at the time and witnessed the entire event. if the attacker had a handgun or semi-automatic rifle instead of a knife, there's a strong chance that people i work with would have been injured or worse, but instead they all went home to their families afterwards.
remind me again please why civilians absolutely need to carry these things around in america?
remind me again please why civilians absolutely need to carry these things around in america?
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MrsSpringsteen
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Eleven people injured in shooting near the French Quarter in New Orleans overnight. Two are in critical condition.
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LuckyNumber7
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Welcome back old friend.
I do believe the question was actually why people need to carry, not what grants them the gray area right to do so.
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Again, self defense.
My question is why leftists feel the need to want to take guns away from law-abiding, responsible citizens....
LuckyNumber7
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Because if you have guns we can’t abort babies to troll you.
My question is why are you asking a question if the way you’ve asked it indicates you don’t want an answer?
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Wow nice illogical attempt at humor there....
My question is why are you dodging the question by misdirecting with another question?
LuckyNumber7
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Because you’re asking a question that’s been answered a million times in a way that indicates you will not listen, as you’ve stated your biases from within your question.
Item 1: usage of the term “leftists” which by many definitions is a generally meaningless term used in attempts to disparage from the right
Item 2: indicating these “leftists” want to take away guns from “law abiding citizens.”
My question is why do you think you’ve posed your question in a way that is inviting or worthy of an answer?
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So you are assuming I won't "listen" based on your own preconceived notions of supposed "bias"?
A leftist is someone left of center...I'd assumed that was obvious. Generally speaking, people on the left are typically more pro-gun control and/or confiscation. Am I wrong?
My original post was answering his question of "remind me again please why civilians absolutely need to carry these things around in America?" Which clearly shows HIS bias, yet THAT question seems perfectly OK. But when I ask the opposite question it is suddenly biased and not "worthy"?
Pretty convenient for you to be able to twist things around so you don't have to answer a question because it "isn't worthy", while making me seem like the bad guy in the process....
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DaveC
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who the fuck left this noisy squawking parrot in here?
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What's the matter? Can't handle someone with a different opinion so you have to call names?
Isn't that a violation of forum rules? Oh wait....probably only if you have the minority opinion I guess...
DaveC
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imagine having such a sad boring life that a fun way for you to spend a monday evening is to create a troll login for a mostly-dead U2 message board just to angrily shout at people.
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Babyface
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Nice shaming tactics. Yet here you are posting on the same forum....nice argument.
Angrily shout? Is that even possible on an online forum? Unless you mean typing in all CAPS, which I haven't done.....
I haven't done anything except ask questions related to the topics, yet all I've gotten is accusations of being a "banned" member and gotten called names. You all don't seem too inclusive and open to diversity of opinion on here.....
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