Ongoing Mass Shooting Thread #3... that's right, a third thread. Because 'Murica.

[dazzledbylight]

Uh, that w as supposed to be 'copycat' actions.

I see the Portland police were about to keep the antifa people away from the far right-wing protesters in Portland today.o On one level I'd wouldn't have minded that some of the worst of the far right-er's got beaten up, except you're not supposed to, and if a far right winger wasn't initiating an attack right then and there I wouldn't attack them even if i might want to. I'm not a complete pacifist, I'd always want to defend myself.

Here's a totally different thing that happened some years back that further sheds light on my mixed feelings. In ?India, I think, there was factory that was badly polluting the area. The people of the area kept reporting physical symptoms for a long time. They were ignored over and over. Things were getting increasingly worse. Finally the townspeople attacked the place at night when the least workers were around. They did their best to cause the least have harm, or even death posdible. I can't fault the townspeople after being ignored, reflected for years.

 

[LuckyNumber7]

The last thing we need is violence from an organized group against Hitler’s children while Hitler is still in power. This is literally giving him a reason to suppress and criminalize his societal opposition. That’s like a textbook example from a third Reich playbook. “Antifa” is their rallying cry to claim the left is also politically violent, when factually the numbers do not support that.

 

[Vlad n U 2]

The brainworms in claiming Antifa as a 'terrorist organisation' when fascists commit a legitimate terrorist act at least once a month on average, but yeah milkshakes are deadly or whatever.

 

[LuckyNumber7]

In this country you’d be shot for brandishing a milkshake in the vicinity of a high profile politician. Really dangerous.

 

[Catman]

https://www.newsweek.com/nra-says-n...year-old-little-girls-their-birthdays-1454841

Finally someone is thinking of the children

 

[Irvine511]

In this country you’d be shot for brandishing a milkshake in the vicinity of a high profile politician. Really dangerous.

That’s why we should aim for softer targets. Like Richard Spencer or even Stephen Miller.

 

[LuckyNumber7]

Punching Richard Spencer in the face was the worst idea ever. We shouldn’t know his name.

 

[Jerry Dunk]

Deplatforming is the most effective tool out there. You can't expect ignoring people to make them go away. You have to remove the tools of access. Alex Jones getting banned from most social media is a great example; he's largely out of the public eye now.

 

[DaveC]

yep, same with that milo shithead. it works.

 

[LuckyNumber7]

Punching someone in the face victimizes them in the eyes of ignorant and somewhat hateful people who think there are “bad people on both sides.”

 

[Vlad n U 2]

Punching Richard Spencer in the face was the worst idea ever. We shouldn’t know his name.

It was the best thing, it made him scared to venture outside. That's what you want with fascists.

 

[Bluer White]

The last thing we need is violence from an organized group against Hitler’s children while Hitler is still in power. This is literally giving him a reason to suppress and criminalize his societal opposition. That’s like a textbook example from a third Reich playbook.

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[Gzusfrk]

Deplatforming is the most effective tool out there. You can't expect ignoring people to make them go away. You have to remove the tools of access. Alex Jones getting banned from most social media is a great example; he's largely out of the public eye now.

Yeah that’s the definition of fascism. He may be an idiot, hateful, whatever you say, but the First Amendment is there for a reason. It’s why you can say the ridiculous things that you say day after day.

I’m glad you post this dictatorial nonsense. Ronald Reagan was right, “If fascism ever comes to America, it will be in the form of liberalism.”

 

[DaveC]

imagine being so deeply brick-stupid that you actually think that "censorship = fascism" and "taxes = socialism" is solid and sensible political thought.

 

[Vlad n U 2]

"The definition of fascism is banning a far right media figure from a private blogging platform"

Silly me, and I thought it was the merger of state and corporate power along with rampant traditionalism and notions of supposed racial/ethnic superiority.

 

[anitram]

Yeah that’s the definition of fascism. He may be an idiot, hateful, whatever you say, but the First Amendment is there for a reason.

This again.

What governmental body is suppressing his right to free speech when a private enterprise (Twitter) bans him?

I thought you people felt that private businesses shouldn't have to make cakes for the gays if it was contrary to their beliefs, business model or whatever?

 

[LuckyNumber7]

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I’ve been dotted. Amazing.

 

[BVS]

Yeah that’s the definition of fascism. He may be an idiot, hateful, whatever you say, but the First Amendment is there for a reason. It’s why you can say the ridiculous things that you say day after day.



I’m glad you post this dictatorial nonsense. Ronald Reagan was right, “If fascism ever comes to America, it will be in the form of liberalism.”

No, please open a history book. That is not the definition of fascism.

The first amendment protects us from the government shutting down our voice.

The CONCEPT of free speech works both ways. Alex can make up theories about Sandy Hook, and when it puts people’s lives in danger then the owners of social media have the freedom to say we will not allow such dangerous voices on our platforms. That’s capitalism, you’ve heard of it right?

 

[Headache in a Suitcase]

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Remember when you, Orgeferiperia and bloodysunday created a thread about cracker barrell, but it was really a way for you guys to speak your "real america" racist bullshit in code?

That was fun.

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[Vlad n U 2]

Oreganodipshit.

 

[Jerry Dunk]

Yeah that’s the definition of fascism. He may be an idiot, hateful, whatever you say, but the First Amendment is there for a reason. It’s why you can say the ridiculous things that you say day after day.

I’m glad you post this dictatorial nonsense. Ronald Reagan was right, “If fascism ever comes to America, it will be in the form of liberalism.”

Are you arguing for nationalizing social media companies?

 

[dazzledbylight]

The last thing we need is violence from an organized group against Hitler’s children while Hitler is still in power. This is literally giving him a reason to suppress and criminalize his societal opposition. That’s like a textbook example from a third Reich playbook. “Antifa” is their rallying cry to claim the left is also politically violent, when factually the numbers do not support that.

Heh, yeah, i get your point.

Yeah that’s the definition of fascism. He may be an idiot, hateful, whatever you say, but the First Amendment is there for a reason. It’s why you can say the ridiculous things that you say day after day.

I’m glad you post this dictatorial nonsense. Ronald Reagan was right, “If fascism ever comes to America, it will be in the form of liberalism.”

riiiiiiiiiight

Oh, poor us, boo hoo..... because of libruls we can't protect workers at their jobs, the environment, increase renewable engergies, kill off medicare, social security, medicaid, food stamps, be racist, sexist, anti-lgbtqi (liberals can be the last three, too ) ...

"The definition of fascism is banning a far right media figure from a private blogging platform"

Silly me, and I thought it was the merger of state and corporate power along with rampant traditionalism and notions of supposed racial/ethnic superiority.

Ohhhh, silly u, vlad!

No, please open a history book. That is not the definition of fascism.

The first amendment protects us from the government shutting down our voice.

The CONCEPT of free speech works both ways. Alex can make up theories about Sandy Hook, and when it puts people’s lives in danger then the owners of social media have the freedom to say we will not allow such dangerous voices on our platforms. That’s capitalism, you’ve heard of it right?

Well said

Remember when you, Orgeferiperia and bloodysunday created a thread about cracker barrell, but it was really a way for you guys to speak your "real america" racist bullshit in code?

That was fun.

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Wow, really?

 

[anitram]

News from the hill today - universal background checks are dead. Killed by Trump after much back and forth between the NRA.

Nothing to see, now we just wait for the next mass shooting.

 

[Headache in a Suitcase]

This is America.

https://tuffypacks.com/shop/bulletproof-backpacks/jansport-student-backpack

 

[LuckyNumber7]

Only $159 on sale buy them while you can

Jansport should be equally ashamed for selling such a product

 

[BVS]

Only $159 on sale buy them while you can

Jansport should be equally ashamed for selling such a product

Why?

I mean, yes it’s fucked up that it’s even a thing, but why should they be ashamed?

 

[BEAL]

https://twitter.com/bbcworld/status/1164853609907085317?s=21

Anything but the guns

 

[Irvine511]

https://twitter.com/bbcworld/status/1164853609907085317?s=21

Anything but the guns

If laws can’t stop these super criminals from getting any kind of gun whenever and wherever they want — criminals dont fallow laws! Get a clue, libs! — what good will curved hallways do? These criminals can’t be stopped by anyone other than a white man in his 40s with miiimal training and a concealed carry permit.

I think we need to reframe the debate for parents and children. Yes, your child might get shot to pieces at school, but maybe we should remember them in glorious terms as 2nd Amendment martyrs? It’s tragic a young life was cut short, but a small price to pay for white men to buy whatever gun they choose.

Freedom isn’t free, libs. And if some 1st graders are cut down in defense of the cause, peace and blessings be upon their name.

 

[LuckyNumber7]

Why?

I mean, yes it’s fucked up that it’s even a thing, but why should they be ashamed?

Uh for real? They’re capitalizing on parents’ fears. Irrational fears. At an incredibly expensive price.

Pull a fire alarm. Kids with no backpacks. Go into class. Kids with no backpacks. Gym. No backpacks. A backpack, which covers approximately not nearly enough of vital space on a human body, is hardly going to make a difference. I bet the stopping power of Kevlar or whatever they use in there isn’t much different from one of those super thick history text books anyways.

While congress fails to act, Jansport will save approximately zero lives to the tune of dozens of millions of dollars.

 

[BVS]

Uh for real? They’re capitalizing on parents’ fears. Irrational fears. At an incredibly expensive price.

Pull a fire alarm. Kids with no backpacks. Go into class. Kids with no backpacks. Gym. No backpacks. A backpack, which covers approximately not nearly enough of vital space on a human body, is hardly going to make a difference. I bet the stopping power of Kevlar or whatever they use in there isn’t much different from one of those super thick history text books anyways.

While congress fails to act, Jansport will save approximately zero lives to the tune of dozens of millions of dollars.

Schools have to have shooting drills today, they’re as common as fire drills. Every industry related to education has had to rethink. The industry I work in has now introduced bulletproof mobile white boards, bulletproof options in seating, and bulletproof desks that are designed to flip over and be shields. If your company has anything to do with education it’s what you’re being asked to think about, should it be that way? No, but I don’t shame the companies for responding.