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Old 03-07-2017, 02:43 PM   #16
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This iPhone comment is basically another take on the welfare queens idiocy that St. Reagan created.
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Old 03-07-2017, 03:20 PM   #17
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Poor people also buy used iPhone off eBay for 150 bucks, nothing like out there tof toutch Rich people shaming the poor. They really don't care if poor people get health care they don't believe its a right of all human beings
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Old 03-07-2017, 04:45 PM   #18
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I have to have a biopsy at the end of this month. Let's hope it's negative because I certainly can't afford to have cancer. Damn me for being poor, right?
just wait an extra year to get a new iphone, easy peasy.

 
that was an attempt at dark humour in case it isn't clear, having been truly poor (i still pretty much am, one bad financial hit now and i'm almost certainly out on the street within a month) where i did have to make those kind of tough "food or rent this month" decisions, i just have to laugh at how absurdly glib and insulting these rich assholes are all the time. i hope you are fine and healthy regardless of how the politics play out
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Old 03-07-2017, 04:57 PM   #19
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I actually did get a new iPhone about six months ago. It's not the newest model. I pay by the month for it, and the phone payments (for the phone itself, not for the service), are less than what I would be paying for my current prescriptions if my current insurance (which I only have because of the ACA!) did not cover them.
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Old 03-07-2017, 05:26 PM   #20
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it looks like nearly everyone hates the Republicans plan, but we mustn't underestimate how easy it is to get the nearly poor to despise the actually poor, especially if they are people of color.
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Old 03-07-2017, 05:56 PM   #21
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On the other end of the "this is bullshit" spectrum, consider how much work goes into employers setting up all the requirements. We changed our eligibility (it's still more generous than ACA called for, but we had to change the timing of it) - that was huge. Don't even get me fucking started on the work involved with setting up the reporting requirements for the IRS.

And then it's like "eh, we're getting rid of that." Fuck you, how about that? Can we have the time and money back we spent trying to sort out that nonsense?

Of course, employers shouldn't be at top of the list of who is kept in mind when these things are being planned, but when stuff like this is implemented, employers are left hanging onto crumbs of detail until the very last minute when the gov't finally decides what they meant by x, y or z, or how Q will work at all. Or they just delay it 10 times when they realize they have no idea how the details will work.

Could you assholes in charge PLEASE, for once in your silly little lives, plan out the details for employers, insurers, doctors, whoever is impacted, before you rush this shit through? (Yes, that goes retroactively for Obama, too.)

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Old 03-07-2017, 06:56 PM   #22
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I have to have a biopsy at the end of this month. Let's hope it's negative because I certainly can't afford to have cancer. Damn me for being poor, right?
Good luck.

In response to Chaffetz' comments: Fuck. You. You condescending asshole.

As always, hearing shit like that just makes me want so badly to take these dumbass insensitive lawmakers and bring them back to observe what my family had been going through in 2009/2010 with my dad. And then I'd tell them to put a fuckng sock in it. God, this sort of attitude makes me so angry.

My mom's got insurance through her job. I don't know how this new setup would affect businesses who have their own insurance plans for their employees, but if she gets screwed over by it, too...

I really hope there's a mass outcry over this plan. I hope people continue to hold these idiots' feet to the fire. I hope there's more angry town hall meetings. These guys need to get a clue.
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Old 03-07-2017, 08:11 PM   #23
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I wish this new bill would make it so I don't owe 5 people 20 bucks after a simple procedure
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Old 03-07-2017, 08:17 PM   #24
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Just saw this interesting article online:

https://sg.finance.yahoo.com/news/go...082553735.html

There's a few doofy comments below, but there's also some people who can see this plan for the BS it clearly is. If this whole thing does backfire on the GOP, I will bring the popcorn and laugh.
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Old 03-07-2017, 08:24 PM   #25
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Surprise surprise, the new health bill includes big tax cuts to the wealthy because you know... They need every bit of help they can! You know what's actually kindof sweet with this? Is that many trump supporters are poor or midle class. Precisely the people that will get shafted. Sadly all others will also get shafted except for the rich! God forbid they have to pay big taxes!
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The progressive tax must be massively increased. Extreme wealth is an unhealthy human condition. Losing touch with reality like that is not good for anyone.
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Old 03-07-2017, 10:13 PM   #27
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*Snort*

I love how some people just automatically assume all the criticism of Trump and the GOP must be coming only from the left. Not like independents or moderate Republican voters are a thing, right?
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our society is set up to punish people who have no money by demanding they pay money for everything necessary to get themselves out of poverty and then punishing them even further when they don't have it.

no money? that means you have shit credit so we won't give you money to open a business or go to school so you can actually make money.

no money? it's a shame you don't have a fixed address, so nobody will hire you so you can make money to afford two months' rent deposit on a place to live.

no money? how about a $10 bank fee every month because you have no money in your account. don't have the $10 to pay that fee right when we decide to take it? here's another $40 nsf fee on top of that for having no money. oh and that's being taken back *first* the instant you do have money again, no matter what else you may need it for.

no money? too bad you can't pay $75 for a passport or driver's license to identify yourself to employers so that they can legally hire you and you can make money.

no money? it's a shame you missed the payment on your cell phone plan this month. we're going to cut off service with no warning and charge you everything you owe plus $50 just to turn it back on. good luck getting a callback for a job without a phone!

no money? but all the jobs are downtown, and since you need to pay $3.50 to get on a bus, guess you're fucked unless you can find something in walking distance. if it narrows your opportunities by 95%, well then you can just easily move right?

it goes on and on. i admittedly (shamefully) used to have the mentality of "well shit if a panhandler gets a $2 coin on average every 10-15 minutes that's $8-$12 an hour, i make minimum wage which is $11 and i have a place to live" and wouldn't give it much more thought. but having come thisclose to being truly homeless and destitute in the past year i've come to realize how truly crushing society is to those who have money. you get a tiny bit but you already owe so much to so many it's instantly gone and chances are you're even worse off than before because the ones that didn't get paid now want even more next time you do get a couple bucks. and on, and on, and on.

"if you want a vision of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever" - george orwell
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A. Men. Well said, Dave.
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