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Old 01-26-2009, 03:10 PM   #166
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That smiley has the look of liberal guilt about it.
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I am not sure if it is smugness so much as a certain guilt. I think liberals get uncomfortable when the facts of abortion are pointed out to them, because, deep down, they know their position is simply morally wrong. I think this accounts for some of the over-reactions on here.

But overall, you're right, of course. It's the other side, not us, who should be thinking about their consciences.
I have absolutely no conscience problems when facing abortion. Call me cold hearted or whatever you want. I do not feel it is morally wrong.

I've read a lot of posts here, and to me it seems like you are so narrowminded you simply do not want to be able to place yourself in someone else's head. You think you know what's best, so you put the words in our mouth.

Keep telling yourself we feel morally wrong, because it makes you feel good. God forbid other people actually have these wrong terrible thoughts.
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Using the word "murder" isn't smug. It's actually a sober reality.
No believe me like most of your posts on this subject and others it was dripping with smugness...
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It's all a deficit situation.
That may well be, and you've brought up the realities of a complicated situation that too many face (and the reality is that there are waiting lists as long as your arm of people who are willing to take those unwanted babies in). I'm not sure that two wrongs equal a right.

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I'd say the kid is better off waiting for the right chance to get born.
Maybe, but that kid doesn't get a second shot.
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I have absolutely no conscience problems when facing abortion. Call me cold hearted or whatever you want. I do not feel it is morally wrong.

I've read a lot of posts here, and to me it seems like you are so narrowminded you simply do not want to be able to place yourself in someone else's head. You think you know what's best, so you put the words in our mouth.

Keep telling yourself we feel morally wrong, because it makes you feel good. God forbid other people actually have these wrong terrible thoughts.
Well, are there any actions you consider to be morally wrong?
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That smiley has the look of liberal guilt about it.
I know nothing of liberal guilt...
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No believe me like most of your posts on this subject and others it was dripping with smugness...
It's uncomfortable when you get called on something, doesn't it?
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That may well be, and you've brought up the realities of a complicated situation that too many face (and the reality is that there are waiting lists as long as your arm of people who are willing to take those unwanted babies in). I'm not sure that two wrongs equal a right.



Maybe, but that kid doesn't get a second shot.
I'm glad you see my point. And I do agree about the kid not getting a second shot. But at least the mother is allowed to still live her life the way she did, and get a baby at the right time, when she's able to care for it and be financially ready. Hopefully with a father too.

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Well, are there any actions you consider to be morally wrong?
Yes plenty. Rape for once, murder, stealing, all various crimes I consider morally wrong.


Do you respect anyone who doesn't share your points of view Financeguy?
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It's uncomfortable when you get called on something, doesn't it?
No, I know when I'm smug and when I'm not, I don't live in any delusion of innocence...
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Yes plenty. Rape for once, murder, stealing, all various crimes I consider morally wrong.
So, your view that the various things you have mentioned are morally wrong is not narrow minded, I take it?
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Do you respect anyone who doesn't share your points of view Financeguy?
I don't respect liberal shibboleths dressed up as arguments, if that's what you mean.
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No, I know when I'm smug and when I'm not, I don't live in any delusion of innocence...
No believe me like most of your posts on this subject and others it was dripping with smugness... (this might sound familiar.)
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So, your view that the various things you have mentioned are morally wrong is not narrow minded, I take it?
It's not. Because I'm actually open to other people's opionions. Even tho I don't agree with someone doesn't mean I have to be disrespectful.
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I don't respect liberal shibboleths dressed up as arguments, if that's what you mean.
Wow, you really are stuck up.

I don't see why you participate in this discussion. Because it doesn't seem to be a discussion to you. As far as I know a discussion is a civilised conversation with arguments and respect for both sides.

What have the liberals ever done to you that you have to disrespect us all?
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Some were very straightforward about it -- including, as it turns out, my wife's OB-GYN.
Jiminy.

I hope she was able to get a different doctor. A woman and her doctor should be on the same page where these things are concerned.
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I am not sure if it is smugness so much as a certain guilt. I think liberals get uncomfortable when the facts of abortion are pointed out to them, because, deep down, they know their position is simply morally wrong. I think this accounts for some of the over-reactions on here.



If you say so. You seem to know more about us than anyone else.
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