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Old 12-14-2009, 06:57 PM   #1
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Number one franchise in Los Angeles CA, Starbucks? McDonald's? guess again



The Los Angeles Times reports, L A City Council will probably push final action into 2010 on an ordinance to stem the proliferation of medical marijuana shops, which have become more common than Starbucks or McDonald's outlets in some L.A. neighborhoods. 1,000 or more shops may now be operating.

Los Angeles Postpones Vote On Restricting Marijuana Shops - Shots - Health News Blog : NPR


Where's the weed? -- latimes.com
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No need, I guess, for another "War on Tobacco" thread.
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re: the title - Starbucks doesn't franchise.

Just had to put that out there.
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Old 12-15-2009, 12:53 AM   #4
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regardless,
there are more pot dispensaries than both Starbucks and McDonalds combined in Los Angeles
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there are more pot dispensaries than both Starbucks and McDonalds combined in Los Angeles
Unsurprising.

Pot is better for you than McDonalds and cheaper than Starbucks.
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and cheaper than Starbucks.
Ha, you've got that right. Went to a Starbucks a few months ago when we were out of town, I got a coffee that was around $2 (one of the worst coffees I've ever had, btw. Two sips and I threw the rest out), and then my daughter got one of those foofy coffee drinks, and the bill came up to almost $10. Wtf?

Team Tim Hortons.
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About time people wake up and smell the coffee (no pun intended) and realize that marijuana is better for you than McDonals and probably most of the food at starbucks anyways! I do think we are getting closer to legalization and I think it is remarkable the amount of misinformation that people have about pot. I am not an avid user of marijuana but I do know people who use it for medical purposes (and recreational) and they can tell you the benefits that medical marijuana has had for them.
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sooo is their any doubt that the legalization of marijuana would provide an unbelievable boost to our economy?
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The Los Angeles Times reports, L A City Council will probably push final action into 2010 on an ordinance to stem the proliferation of medical marijuana shops, which have become more common than Starbucks or McDonald's outlets in some L.A. neighborhoods. 1,000 or more shops may now be operating.

Los Angeles Postpones Vote On Restricting Marijuana Shops - Shots - Health News Blog : NPR


Where's the weed? -- latimes.com
I'd heard about how common they were before I traveled there this past spring, but I was blown away by how open everyone was about marijuana there. I thoroughly enjoyed the people advertising for the medical marijuana storefronts on Venice Beach.

Needless to say, it's nothing like the east coast (aside from Massachusetts, according to the guy in the room next door, who says with its decriminalization there that they pretty much don't care what you do).

I really, really, dislike the laws against marijuana. I don't particularly enjoy it myself, but I don't think it should be against the law at all, and I certainly think that if it is, it shouldn't be penalized nearly as harshly as it is.
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sooo is their any doubt that the legalization of marijuana would provide an unbelievable boost to our economy?
I truly believe if Uncle Sam could figure out how to A) keep Dude from growing the ganga in his own walk-in closet, or B) tax every bud grown by Dude, then marijuana would be legal in all 50 states within 5 years. You'd think somebody in gov't would figure out that Prohibition did.not.work.
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sooo is their any doubt that the legalization of marijuana would provide an unbelievable boost to our economy?
Prostitution, too.
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what's interesting is that you'd think that the rise of marijuana shops would inspire a corresponding rise in the availability of a 24/7 McDonalds and Taco Bell franchises.
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In today's sociopolitical climate, I think, although it would be probably sensible, any widespread legalisation of pot is incredibly unlikely.

Frankly, I'd be surprised if we don't see some sort of renewed prohibition, however lame, on existing legal drugs, rather than anything in the opposite direction. Speaking here mainly of the US, where as an outsider looking through the glass, it sometimes seems to me that moderation is a impossibility, and where in many polite circles a glass of wine with dinner gets you an invitation to join a meeting. Ok, I exaggerate, but... how much, guys. HOW MUCH?????

Sorry to sound like the iron horse here gang, but that's the way it seems to me.
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I'd personally hate to see corporate America get ahold of the sales and marketing of marijuana.
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In today's sociopolitical climate, I think, although it would be probably sensible, any widespread legalisation of pot is incredibly unlikely.

really?

http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/polit...-79304947.html

I'll be voting
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Pot Vote: Legalizing Marijuana Could Be On 2010 Ballot

By JESSICA GREENE
Tue, Dec 15, 2009

A measure to legalize marijuana in California has enough signatures to qualify for the November 2010 ballot, advocates say.
The Tax and Regulate Initiative has far more than the nearly 434,000 signatures needed to make the statewide ballot, said Richard Lee, well-known Oakland medical marijuana entrepreneur and the initiative's main backer. Campaign organizers say they will submit more than 650,000 signatures of registered voters next month.

The proposal would legalize possession of up to one ounce of marijuana for adults 21 and older. Residents could cultivate marijuana gardens up to 25 square feet. City and county governments would determine whether to permit and tax marijuana sales within their boundaries.

County election officials across the state now must validate and count the signatures before the California Secretary of State puts the measure on the ballot .

Lee's group has collected more than 680,000 signatures, about 57% more than the number needed. That should be plenty -- as a rule of thumb, about 30% of signatures on petitions can be expected to be invalidated, according to Steve Smith, a political consultant who has run many California initiative campaigns.

"I'd be very surprised if they don't qualify," Smith told the Los Angeles Times.

A Field Poll conducted in April found that 56 percent of California residents supported legalizing and taxing marijuana to help bridge the state budget deficit. Still, pro-legalization advocates are divided over whether the ballot measure is being pushed too soon.

Marijuana is illegal under federal law. But some legal scholars have argued the U.S. government could do little to make California enforce the federal ban if the drug became legal under state law.

Oakland is ground zero for marijuana legalization in the U.S. It became the first city in the country to pass a cannabis tax during a special election in July. The city is expected generate nearly $300,000 a year from taxes on medical cannabis clubs. Other California cities considering taxing medical marijuana are San Jose, Berkeley, Santa Cruz, Sacramento and Los Angeles.

Lee owns a handful of Oakland businesses, including Coffeeshop Blue Sky and the famed Oaksterdam University, where students can enroll in classes for "entering the budding cannabis job field." Lee's company has spent $1.1 million on the effort already, and expects a full campaign to cost between $7 million and $20 million.

"Medical marijuana in California has been accepted as legalization in some ways by a lot of the population," Lee told the Times. "To me this is codifying what is happening."
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