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Old 06-24-2009, 08:37 PM   #46
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and we should have left Saddam. He posed no threat to Europe so should have let him be. If he destroyed Middle East, i couldnt care less.
Anything that impacts the global economy threatens, Europe, North America, Asia and any other country that is developed and has significant amount of trade. Persian Gulf Oil Supply impacts the global economy to a degree greater than any other part of the world.
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Isn't this a requirement of any president regardless of political affiliations or beliefs?
Which is why Secretary of State Colin Powell correctly described the so called "Bush Doctrine" as simply a restatement of past policies held by virtually every President since World War II.
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Anything that impacts the global economy threatens, Europe, North America, Asia and any other country that is developed and has significant amount of trade. Persian Gulf Oil Supply impacts the global economy to a degree greater than any other part of the world.
I agree with you that free trade is prima facie a good thing and should be protected. We probably would disagree on how to accomplish that goal.
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Old 06-24-2009, 08:42 PM   #49
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Every single one of them would not hesitate to enter one if necessary to protect the United States or its interest.
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Which is why Secretary of State Colin Powell correctly described the so called "Bush Doctrine" as simply a restatement of past policies held by virtually every President since World War II.
But note your use of the words "if necessary" in your previous post. Pre-emptive war is only necessary if there is certifiable proof of an imminent threat, proof which the Bush administration embellished or outright lied about in order to justify an invasion of Iraq.
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Well, yes, they supported it, but it was under false pretenses.
It was not a false pretense that Saddam was in violation of 17 UN Security Council Resolutions, that he had failed to account for thousands of Stocks of WMD, that nearly all intelligence agencies around the world estimated that Saddam had an active WMD program, that after the invasion, programs related to the production of WMD were found and were in violation of the Gulf War Ceacefire agreement.

In addition, there is a USA TODAY/GALLUP poll, even before September 11, 2001, taken in February 2001 showing that a majority of the US population supported using military action to remove Saddam from power.
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But note your use of the words "if necessary" in your previous post. Pre-emptive war is only necessary if there is certifiable proof of an imminent threat, proof which the Bush administration embellished or outright lied about in order to justify an invasion of Iraq.
As judged by the Gulf War Ceacefire Agreement, multiple UN resolutions, and even the Clinton administration, the requirments needed for military action were already there.

Listen to what Bill Clinton has to say below paying close attention to the words below in bold:

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same old nonsense. n korea makes a big fuss and US gives them money and/or food and they shut up for a while, until the next time they want something.

they must REALLY be hurting for food and money this time.
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