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Old 10-09-2009, 12:36 PM   #46
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let's just make Obama president for life and get it over with already.
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Old 10-09-2009, 12:38 PM   #47
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i hope bono's ok

we are ONE
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Old 10-09-2009, 12:43 PM   #48
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Oprah is the Nobel Peace Prize winner?
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Old 10-09-2009, 12:50 PM   #49
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Yay - congrats.

Didn't Gorbachev also win in 1990 early in his term as President of the Soviet Union?
'nuff said.
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Old 10-09-2009, 12:51 PM   #50
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Gibbs said the WH didn't even know he was nominated. Do they make them public beforehand?
As far as I know, its a big hush hush secret thingie.

Unless secret services found out before and told President Obama. You know how they always look into our houses with those weird satellites.
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Old 10-09-2009, 12:53 PM   #51
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And even if America is still at war in Iraq, I think there is an exit plan prepared (I haven´t been following that but anyway).
Obama is using the plan for Iraq that was designed by Bush.

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We saw a whole nation in paradigma shift. From the tyrant Bush who kept US citizens in fear, suddenly there emerged a majority of the nation shouting "Yes we can". You can only guess what positive impact this had on the country as a whole.
Well, just 52% of them voted for Mr. Obama. Thats not a paradigma shift, just an election win aided by a sudden drop in the economy in the last two months before the election. Whether his election has had any positive impact on the country domestically remains to be seen.

Bush is NOT a tyrant, but an elected and RE-ELECTED President of the United States. Being elected by the people into office is certainly an accomplishment, BUT being RE-ELECTED by the people to another four years in office stands way above that.


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There´s nothing left to guess with international relations. Everybody loves him and the U.S. already seems much better to Joe Average citizen - from Europe. from Africa. (Ok, Iran´s Ahmadinejad still has some beef with him, but who wouldn´t have beef with Ahmadinejad)

President Obama still has a lot to accomplish, and imo the peace nobel prize is a sign that the academy in Oslo encourages him.
Perhaps its a sign that the little acadamy in Oslo likes to give awards to its favorite celebraties for doing extremely well in annual PEW research polling.
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Old 10-09-2009, 12:54 PM   #52
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So halfsies on the NPP w/ W?
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Old 10-09-2009, 01:10 PM   #53
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Bush is NOT a tyrant, but an elected and RE-ELECTED President of the United States. Being elected by the people into office is certainly an accomplishment, BUT being RE-ELECTED by the people to another four years in office stands way above that.
Technically, he wasn't elected by the people in 2000.
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Technically, he wasn't elected by the people in 2000.
Technically, no president is elected by the people. They are elected by the electoral college. The EC is not bound by the popular vote.
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That war-mongering dumbfuck redneck bastard, George W Bush deserves this and more!
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Old 10-09-2009, 01:21 PM   #56
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Technically, no president is elected by the people. They are elected by the electoral college. The EC is not bound by the popular vote.
Agreed, but you know what I meant.
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Yes it is a paradigma shift.
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The Nobel Peace Price is significantly politicized... They gave it to Obama more for perception than for reality, which in my opinion is a complete nonsense.

But, then again, the Nobel Peace Price has lost quite a bit of credibility. I was wondering if the Oslo Academy should stop giving it and restrict themselves to sciences and arts.
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Old 10-09-2009, 02:51 PM   #59
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this is an absolute joke. i voted for obama, i like obama... but this award was given to him for one reason and one reason only; he's not george bush.

obama may do something that warrants him winning the peace prize in the future, but he hasn't done jack diddily squat compared to other candidates yet. and don't give me this he closed g'tmo bullcrap line. guantanamo bay is still open and operational to this very day. this is a political stunt that cheapens the peace prize. nothing more.
Agreed 100%

Obama getting the Nobel Peace Prize is way too premature. There should be a rule that says someone has to active in whatever they're doing peace-wise for let's say, 5 years, then they are eligible to be nominated.
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hey everyone! i just received word that i've awarded been awarded the nobel prize for photography based on the picture i plan on taking
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