Well, Bush did not go to war against Iran, and he also did go to the United Nations on Iraq and got authorization in resolution 1441 to launch the invasion. Then, in resolution 1483, the UN approved the occupation resulting from the invasion. The UN has approved the occupation of Iraq every year through 2008. Continued US presence in Iraq is now a matter for the Iraqi government, and Obama has followed Bush's plan here as well.
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Well, Bush did not go to war against Iran, and he also did go to the United Nations on Iraq and got authorization in resolution 1441 to launch the invasion. Then, in resolution 1483, the UN approved the occupation resulting from the invasion. The UN has approved the occupation of Iraq every year through 2008. Continued US presence in Iraq is now a matter for the Iraqi government, and Obama has followed Bush's plan here as well.
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Also on his radio show, Beck said: "I really think this is a validation of all things. The Nobel Peace Prize should be turned down by Barack Obama and given ... to the Tea Party goers and the 9-12 Project because -- because of the arrogance ... because of the arrogance of the progressives that thought no one would stand in their way, that he would be able to accomplish everything. Two weeks into his presidency, they nominated him for it and said, oh, this is going to be a slam dunk. And because of the Tea Party goers and the 9-12 Project people that stood in his way and stopped him from accomplishing the things that he thought -- please, I'm the messiah. I'll be able to accomplish that. We have now seen -- we are now pulling the curtain back and seeing, oh, wait a minute, he just got an award for doing things he couldn't get done. Hmm." [The Glenn Beck Program, 10/9/09]
Posted Friday, October 09, 2009 11:28 AM
Rush Limbaugh: "Nobel Gang Just Suicide-Bombed Themselves"
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It’s hard to tell who is more shocked by this morning’s announcement that Obama has won the Nobel Peace Prize. Obama? Bill Clinton? The right? The left? Reporters who were present at the Oslo announcement audibly gasped. Obama has barely started his first term and has been awarded the greatest achievement for world peace … after just 263 days in office.
But perhaps the Nobel Peace Prize committee has succeeded in pro-actively promoting peace—in joining the hands of America’s liberal and conservative blogosphere.
Obamamania comes as little surprise to Rush Limbaugh, who e-mailed us this morning after we asked him to share his thoughts. “The Nobel gang just suicide-bombed themselves. Gore, Carter, Obama, soon Bill Clinton. See a pattern here? They are all leftist sell-outs. George Bush liberates 50 million Muslims in Iraq, Reagan liberates hundreds of millions of Europeans and saves parts of Latin America. Any awards?” Limbaugh says “Obama gives speeches trashing his own country and for that gets a prize, which is now worth as much as whatever prizes they are putting in Cracker Jacks these days.”
“This fully exposes the illusion that is Barack Obama. It is a greater embarrassment than losing the Olympics bid. And with this "award" the elites of the world are urging Obama, THE MAN OF PEACE, to not do the surge in Afghanistan, not take action against Iran and its nuclear program and to basically continue his intentions to emasculate the United States. They love a weakened, neutered U.S. and this is their way of promoting that concept. I think God has a great sense of humor, too.”
Also on his radio show, Beck said: "I really think this is a validation of all things. The Nobel Peace Prize should be turned down by Barack Obama and given ... to the Tea Party goers and the 9-12 Project because -- because of the arrogance ... because of the arrogance of the progressives that thought no one would stand in their way, that he would be able to accomplish everything. Two weeks into his presidency, they nominated him for it and said, oh, this is going to be a slam dunk. And because of the Tea Party goers and the 9-12 Project people that stood in his way and stopped him from accomplishing the things that he thought -- please, I'm the messiah. I'll be able to accomplish that. We have now seen -- we are now pulling the curtain back and seeing, oh, wait a minute, he just got an award for doing things he couldn't get done. Hmm." [The Glenn Beck Program, 10/9/09]
Posted Friday, October 09, 2009 11:28 AM
Rush Limbaugh: "Nobel Gang Just Suicide-Bombed Themselves"
Newsweek
It’s hard to tell who is more shocked by this morning’s announcement that Obama has won the Nobel Peace Prize. Obama? Bill Clinton? The right? The left? Reporters who were present at the Oslo announcement audibly gasped. Obama has barely started his first term and has been awarded the greatest achievement for world peace … after just 263 days in office.
But perhaps the Nobel Peace Prize committee has succeeded in pro-actively promoting peace—in joining the hands of America’s liberal and conservative blogosphere.
Obamamania comes as little surprise to Rush Limbaugh, who e-mailed us this morning after we asked him to share his thoughts. “The Nobel gang just suicide-bombed themselves. Gore, Carter, Obama, soon Bill Clinton. See a pattern here? They are all leftist sell-outs. George Bush liberates 50 million Muslims in Iraq, Reagan liberates hundreds of millions of Europeans and saves parts of Latin America. Any awards?” Limbaugh says “Obama gives speeches trashing his own country and for that gets a prize, which is now worth as much as whatever prizes they are putting in Cracker Jacks these days.”
“This fully exposes the illusion that is Barack Obama. It is a greater embarrassment than losing the Olympics bid. And with this "award" the elites of the world are urging Obama, THE MAN OF PEACE, to not do the surge in Afghanistan, not take action against Iran and its nuclear program and to basically continue his intentions to emasculate the United States. They love a weakened, neutered U.S. and this is their way of promoting that concept. I think God has a great sense of humor, too.”
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The only criteria I recall, after you've been suggested, is that you are alive (there's no posthumous awards in any Nobel prize field) and with the Peace Prize that you have done something important to the cause in the preceding year. However, the last requirement is not strict I'd say. If you took a look at previous laureates they hardly ever received the Nobel Peace Prize in the year after probably their biggest achievement, but some time after when their full achievement could have been assessed.
Are his talks always that incoherent? There's not one sentence from beginning to end that makes a correct sentence. I don't see what point he is trying to make. Well, I see it, but not from what he says.
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But Rush would be completely sober and not drunk on a bottle of cognacWho is more of an egomaniac-Kanye or Rush?
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On 27 November 1895, Alfred Nobel signed his last will and testament, giving the largest share of his fortune to a series of prizes, the Nobel Prizes. As described in Nobel's will, one part was dedicated to "the person who shall have done the most or the best work for fraternity between nations, for the abolition or reduction of standing armies and for the holding and promotion of peace congresses".
well there you go, the commitee has to follow the will of Nobel. Let´s take a look:
fraternity between nations:
the Europe - US connection and the Russia - US connection. Both have improved with Obama.
abolition or reduction of standing armies -
this also applies to arms especially nuclear arms, and Obama promotes a nuclear free world, and went away from the space arms blah shield so this is the trick:
getting Russia on the table to discuss about threats like nuclear proliferation of middle east
for the holding and promotion of peace congresses - I strongly suggest a follow up, and I´m sure many NGOs can assist. Lets promote Peace.
for the abolition or reduction of standing armies I suggest reduction of troops - not only US but the world has to collaborate.
another positive effect is that everyone is talking about the Nobel peace prize and if he deserves it or not and whatnot. Most of the comments I have heard are not Limbaugh-ish- but the contrary...
The world wants peace. An overwhelming majority of people who live on this planet want peace.
This is the effect I hear from the media.
This also is the effect I see on this messageboard from YOU, dear FYMers. How many comments would a thread on the peace nobel prize get if it had been rewarded to someone else? Four? Five? How many views? Fifty?
In case this Nobel peace prize was given to him too early or he doesn´t deserve it or not yet as many of you say - - what do you want? Get up on your feet and promote peace yourself. Write to your congressman and tell them you want to help the President reach his goals by promoting peace conferences in every major American city.
This price implies change... and reminds President Obama of his duties.
In that light,
with everyone talking about Peace now - and if Obama did enough, as of yet, to promote it:
the decision of the committee is a smart decision
well there you go, the commitee has to follow the will of Nobel. Let´s take a look:
fraternity between nations:
the Europe - US connection and the Russia - US connection. Both have improved with Obama.
abolition or reduction of standing armies -
this also applies to arms especially nuclear arms, and Obama promotes a nuclear free world, and went away from the space arms blah shield so this is the trick:
getting Russia on the table to discuss about threats like nuclear proliferation of middle east
for the holding and promotion of peace congresses - I strongly suggest a follow up, and I´m sure many NGOs can assist. Lets promote Peace.
for the abolition or reduction of standing armies I suggest reduction of troops - not only US but the world has to collaborate.
another positive effect is that everyone is talking about the Nobel peace prize and if he deserves it or not and whatnot. Most of the comments I have heard are not Limbaugh-ish- but the contrary...
The world wants peace. An overwhelming majority of people who live on this planet want peace.
This is the effect I hear from the media.
This also is the effect I see on this messageboard from YOU, dear FYMers. How many comments would a thread on the peace nobel prize get if it had been rewarded to someone else? Four? Five? How many views? Fifty?
In case this Nobel peace prize was given to him too early or he doesn´t deserve it or not yet as many of you say - - what do you want? Get up on your feet and promote peace yourself. Write to your congressman and tell them you want to help the President reach his goals by promoting peace conferences in every major American city.
This price implies change... and reminds President Obama of his duties.
In that light,
with everyone talking about Peace now - and if Obama did enough, as of yet, to promote it:
the decision of the committee is a smart decision
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I'm another Obama supporter who saw the headline this morning and thought WTF?
I'd like to think this will spur him to actually follow though on stuff he has promised, such as closing Gitmo. On the other hand, I'm afraid this will cause more harm than good because of the potential for backlash.
I'd like to think this will spur him to actually follow though on stuff he has promised, such as closing Gitmo. On the other hand, I'm afraid this will cause more harm than good because of the potential for backlash.
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The letter is only the tip of the iceberg, and was used as an example. I really don't see how it equates to "Again, following Bush policy..." as you stated. If that were the case, Obama would have held over Bush's national security and diplomatic teams. Diplomacy with Iran wasn't even on the table under Bush.
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Any word yet on Sarah Palin winning the Pulitzer or Nobel Prize in Literature for her yet to be published memoir?
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Obama may in fact be the perfect recipient of this award. I mean, past winners have said things that don't exactly promote peace and tolerance. Just look at Al Gore stating that President Bush "BETRAYED THIS COUNTRY!!!" and Betty Williams describing how she would literally love to kill George W. Bush. Real peace-loving people, there. 
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Maybe for his next trick, Obama can bring peace between the left and right in America.
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let's stick to something achievable, like peace in the middle east.Maybe for his next trick, Obama can bring peace between the left and right in America.
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I'm not sure if "ghandi" technically exists as a word in Hindi, but it's a bit too obvious for comfort what it'd mean if it did.
When I teach Indian politics, I always warn my students that they WILL get marked down significantly if they can't be bothered to spell "Gandhi" correctly. Needless to say, only the native English-speakers make that particular mistake anyway!
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While Obama certainly wouldn't have been on my preferred candidates list, I like this take on it.
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Depends on your intentions.
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I'm not sure if "ghandi" technically exists as a word in Hindi, but it's a bit too obvious for comfort what it'd mean if it did.
Ha! Yes, it exists in Hindi but is a rude word.
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Let's see what the President has done recently....lobbied for three controversial provisions of the Patriot Act to remain in their current form....
From 10/9 Wall Street Journal
....Approved increase of troops (by about 50%) to Afghanistan--a move I don't necessarily disagree with, except for the fact that I don't see any particular reason for hope for change in that region.
Obama approves Afghanistan troop increase - CNN.com
......Approved withdrawal of 4000 troops in Iraq in October and most troops withdrawn by August 2010.
Mixed reviews.
From 10/9 Wall Street Journal
....Approved increase of troops (by about 50%) to Afghanistan--a move I don't necessarily disagree with, except for the fact that I don't see any particular reason for hope for change in that region.
Obama approves Afghanistan troop increase - CNN.com
......Approved withdrawal of 4000 troops in Iraq in October and most troops withdrawn by August 2010.
Mixed reviews.
Well, I guess that shows you have not heard about the many talks that Iranian and American officials had in Baghdad during the Bush years. Obama did hold over Bush's Secretary of Defense which is unprecented in United States history given that Gates was serving and Administration of a rival party.
The Bush administration has been working for years with France, Russia, China, Germany, other European countries, the IAEA in order to resolve the problem of Iran's nuclear development.
1. There were reductions in nuclear weapons between Russia and the United States during the Bush years.
2. Conventional military arms under both countries though have continued to increase, even while Obama has been in office. Its a stated aim of Obama to increase the size of the US military.
3. Russia has worked with the United States on the threat of nuclear proliferation in the middle east and elsewhere since the Clinton years. This is nothing new.
There has never been an American President that did not want peace.
maycocksean
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Maybe for his next trick, Obama can bring peace between the left and right in America.
It'll never happen as long as one side doesn't want it.
And one side definitely doesn't.
After all such a peace will put Limbaugh, Beck, and Co. out of a job.
The_Pac_Mule
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and the other side being snoody and self rightous about it doesnt help either
I am still shocked over this award announcement. Don't get me wrong: I think Obama was the right winner for the US Presidency, I was glad he won the election.
But seriously..... Nobel price? Already? I feel like they awarded it to him because he has been in the office for 10 months and hasn't started any wars yet.
oh well....
But seriously..... Nobel price? Already? I feel like they awarded it to him because he has been in the office for 10 months and hasn't started any wars yet.
oh well....
AnnRKeyintheUSA
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How can a guy who's commander of chief in two active wars win a peace prize? 
Why even Bono was more deserving.
Why even Bono was more deserving.
Vincent Vega
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You can't blame anyone for inheriting two wars.
maycocksean
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and the other side being snoody and self rightous about it doesnt help either
Let's say, that the Democrats were not snooty and self-righteous, but were humble and cooperative, do you think Limbaugh or Beck would change their tune? After all Obama has made quite an effort at reaching out in a bipartisan manner.
Of course, not. It's not in their financial interest to do so. They've made a bucket load of money promoting a particular worldview.
They'd be fools to change.
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Actually, the deadline to be nominated was just a few weeks after his inaguration.
I personally think he got nominated and then won because people were just so overwhelmed with happiness that America actually elected someone as president who has intellectual ability, can speak coherently and is willing to give diplomacy a shot. Those are good things, but honestly, they should be qualities the leader of any country should possess in order to be considred at least half-way decent. It's sad how far GWB lowered the bar.
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