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Old 03-31-2010, 03:35 PM   #31
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no idea.
Seems to me if biology is the rational for that behaviour to make marriage last for men, maybe they should.

What's good for the goose...
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Seems to me if biology is the rational for that behaviour to make marriage last for men, maybe they should.

What's good for the goose...


given the striking difference i've seen between male/male and female/female relationships, i don't think that attitudes towards sex are purely social constructs. largely, perhaps, but simply because biology doesn't provide a totalizing narrative for why men the way that they are doesn't mean that it doesn't have any influence at all.
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I think what I'm trying to get across is that the biological infuences are largely similar between men and woman and the social constructs of sexuality, monogamy and morality that hold male "wickedness" in opposition to female "virtue" does neither gender any favours.
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I wouldn't quote that link if I were you. I've visited the love-shy.com forums before, and there are some crazy mofos over there. I mean, literally insane, psycho, loony, crazy people.

They seem to think that, just because they're men, they're entitled to a woman. And they say horrible things about women who join the site (you can't be love-shy! You're a woman, so therefore you can get sex whenever you want!), advocate rape and murder, and glorify people like that gym shooter who shot a bunch of women because he wasn't getting any (they considered him somewhat of a hero.)
Hang on. I am absolutely not advocating anyone visit any forum and only just read about this alleged loveshy 'condition' today from a London Times article. I have never visited this forum you refer to and don't plan on it either.

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But I also believe that women can also be love shy, which is something that Gilmartin neglected to mention in his book. I've known several women who fit the profile
Agreed so have I.
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I think what I'm trying to get across is that the biological infuences are largely similar between men and woman and the social constructs of sexuality, monogamy and morality that hold male "wickedness" in opposition to female "virtue" does neither gender any favours.


and i agree, mostly, but i think that there are biological factors we can't quite get around.

how many female Republican politicians troll women's rooms looking for cunnilingus?
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Does this book have pictures?
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and i agree, mostly, but i think that there are biological factors we can't quite get around.

how many female Republican politicians troll women's rooms looking for cunnilingus?

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and i agree, mostly, but i think that there are biological factors we can't quite get around.

how many female Republican politicians troll women's rooms looking for cunnilingus?
You mention seeing such striking differences in same-sex relationships. Could it be that following the biological impulse for a same-sex partner often manifests in an amplification of the expected societal gender roles with respect to monogamy?

Just a thought.
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and i agree, mostly, but i think that there are biological factors we can't quite get around.

how many female Republican politicians troll women's rooms looking for cunnilingus?
http://www.hulu.com/watch/4109/satur...gus-comes-home
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You mention seeing such striking differences in same-sex relationships. Could it be that following the biological impulse for a same-sex partner often manifests in an amplification of the expected societal gender roles with respect to monogamy?

Just a thought.


i think a lot of it has to do with a sexuality that develops in closets and shadows and almost requires impulsivity for it to have any expression at all.

however, things do get funny. i didn't want to be known as a slut. do many hetero men worry about that?
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i think a lot of it has to do with a sexuality that develops in closets and shadows and almost requires impulsivity for it to have any expression at all.
Ahh, gay men and hetero women have more in common than love of shopping.

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i didn't want to be known as a slut. do many hetero men worry about that?
Good question. I wonder if any here will answer it.
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Ahh, gay men and hetero women have more in common than love of shopping.

are you comparing a sexuality that develops in a closet and that is almost universally degraded by all aspects of society to female heterosexuality?

though i absolutely agree that women and gays have the same enemy: sexism. because homophobia is an expression of misogyny, and if your boyfriend hates gays, ladies, he probably hates you too.
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What you had said about closets and shadows speaks of sexual repression which yes, is an experience shared by many hetero women.
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What you had said about closets and shadows speaks of sexual repression which yes, is an experience shared by many hetero women.

i think the comparison is starting to strain. we can blame the same overarching enemy, but my guess is that the lived-in experience of gays vs. women is really very different.
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Old 04-02-2010, 12:48 PM   #45
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Meh, I think you were taking me a little too seriously...I made the comparison along with the shopping comment.

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