LarryMullen's POPAngel
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What a damn fool.
Mother of octuplets already had six kids
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kafrun
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It's so sad that for some it ultimately comes down to the almighty dollar.
LarryMullen's POPAngel
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I think I saw Kate on Larry King last night.
Bitch looked pissed someone else is cashing in on having eleventy billion babies.
Bitch looked pissed someone else is cashing in on having eleventy billion babies.
Galeongirl
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What almighty dollar? I think we could better say it's all about the Euros these days!
MrsSpringsteen
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Octuplets' mom not receiving many gifts
Baby-care firms are steering clear
By Shaya Tayefe Mohajer and John Rogers, Associated Press | February 4, 2009
LOS ANGELES - Where is the lifetime supply of diapers, formula, and baby wipes? The free van? The new house?
Women who give birth to six, seven, or eight babies are often showered with dazzling gifts from big corporations, local businesses, and strangers. But that is not happening with the Southern California mother who delivered octuplets last week.
The news that she is single and has six other children - and that all 14 were conceived by having embryos implanted - seems to have turned off many people, and companies are not exactly rushing to get publicity by piling on the freebies.
Nadya Suleman, 33, has been lambasted by talk-show hosts, fertility experts, even her own mother, who has her hands full taking care of Suleman's other children, ages 2 to 7.
A veteran Hollywood publicist said Suleman's handlers have their work cut out for them in trying to win public sympathy for her.
"I think it's a calamity," said publicist David Brokaw, who has handled crises for celebrities. "I don't see, the way this is shaped, how you can say much about it in terms of something favorable."
Makers of diapers, formula, and other products would probably want to steer clear of her, Brokaw said. He suggested she lie low for now and concentrate on crafting an image as a responsible parent.
Gerber spokesman David Mortazavi said that if the baby-food maker was planning to do something for the family, it probably would have done it already.
Procter & Gamble spokeswoman Tricia Higgins said that the maker of Pampers does not actively seek out parents to sponsor, but that the octuplets' mother can ask for what is typically provided in multiple births: a jumbo pack of diapers for each child, baby wipes, and coupons for discounts. That is unlikely to last Suleman a week.
Conservative radio talk show host Bill Handel in Los Angeles, who has branded the births "freakish," said on the air yesterday that people are ready to boycott any corporations that help the octuplets or their mother.
Suleman's spokesman, Mike Furtney, said that he has received some "fairly negative" comments from the public but that offers to help with the babies have come in from nurses, and some baby stores have stepped forward to volunteer their support.
"I don't remember the brand name, but one major disposable diaper company sent some diapers," he said. Furtney said he was confident that once Suleman tells her story, many of her critics will "readjust their thinking a little."
Furtney said Suleman has had offers for TV and other media deals.
For a single mother, the cost of raising 14 children through age 17 ranges from $1.3 million to $2.7 million, according to the Department of Agriculture.
The Suleman octuplets' medical costs have not been disclosed. The babies were born nine weeks premature, and in California, a single premature birth in 2006 led to an average hospital stay of 25 days and cost $164,273. That would amount to a $1.3 million bill for eight.
Suleman's income is unclear. She was employed by a mental health facility from 1997 through 2008. Nasty callers dominated the phone lines in the first few days after the octuplets were born at Kaiser Permanente Bellflower Medical Center.
"We heard a lot of outrage because there was a vacuum of information and people were going on rumor and conjecture," said hospital spokeswoman Socorro Serrano.
But calls of encouragement, particularly from mothers of multiples, have also poured in, along with offers of hand-me-downs and tips, Serrano said.
Baby-care firms are steering clear
By Shaya Tayefe Mohajer and John Rogers, Associated Press | February 4, 2009
LOS ANGELES - Where is the lifetime supply of diapers, formula, and baby wipes? The free van? The new house?
Women who give birth to six, seven, or eight babies are often showered with dazzling gifts from big corporations, local businesses, and strangers. But that is not happening with the Southern California mother who delivered octuplets last week.
The news that she is single and has six other children - and that all 14 were conceived by having embryos implanted - seems to have turned off many people, and companies are not exactly rushing to get publicity by piling on the freebies.
Nadya Suleman, 33, has been lambasted by talk-show hosts, fertility experts, even her own mother, who has her hands full taking care of Suleman's other children, ages 2 to 7.
A veteran Hollywood publicist said Suleman's handlers have their work cut out for them in trying to win public sympathy for her.
"I think it's a calamity," said publicist David Brokaw, who has handled crises for celebrities. "I don't see, the way this is shaped, how you can say much about it in terms of something favorable."
Makers of diapers, formula, and other products would probably want to steer clear of her, Brokaw said. He suggested she lie low for now and concentrate on crafting an image as a responsible parent.
Gerber spokesman David Mortazavi said that if the baby-food maker was planning to do something for the family, it probably would have done it already.
Procter & Gamble spokeswoman Tricia Higgins said that the maker of Pampers does not actively seek out parents to sponsor, but that the octuplets' mother can ask for what is typically provided in multiple births: a jumbo pack of diapers for each child, baby wipes, and coupons for discounts. That is unlikely to last Suleman a week.
Conservative radio talk show host Bill Handel in Los Angeles, who has branded the births "freakish," said on the air yesterday that people are ready to boycott any corporations that help the octuplets or their mother.
Suleman's spokesman, Mike Furtney, said that he has received some "fairly negative" comments from the public but that offers to help with the babies have come in from nurses, and some baby stores have stepped forward to volunteer their support.
"I don't remember the brand name, but one major disposable diaper company sent some diapers," he said. Furtney said he was confident that once Suleman tells her story, many of her critics will "readjust their thinking a little."
Furtney said Suleman has had offers for TV and other media deals.
For a single mother, the cost of raising 14 children through age 17 ranges from $1.3 million to $2.7 million, according to the Department of Agriculture.
The Suleman octuplets' medical costs have not been disclosed. The babies were born nine weeks premature, and in California, a single premature birth in 2006 led to an average hospital stay of 25 days and cost $164,273. That would amount to a $1.3 million bill for eight.
Suleman's income is unclear. She was employed by a mental health facility from 1997 through 2008. Nasty callers dominated the phone lines in the first few days after the octuplets were born at Kaiser Permanente Bellflower Medical Center.
"We heard a lot of outrage because there was a vacuum of information and people were going on rumor and conjecture," said hospital spokeswoman Socorro Serrano.
But calls of encouragement, particularly from mothers of multiples, have also poured in, along with offers of hand-me-downs and tips, Serrano said.
Galeongirl
Galeonbroad
Wait what. She's SINGLE???????? 
That makes it even more insane.
Her being employed by a menthal health facility amuses me somewhat.
That makes it even more insane.Her being employed by a menthal health facility amuses me somewhat.
MrsSpringsteen
Blue Crack Addict
Yes she's single, I think she's divorced. But her ex is allegedly not the father of her first six kids, allegedly she had a sperm donor.
I don't know whether to feel seriously annoyed by her or to feel sorry for her. Maybe once the shock of all this information passes I would feel sorry. She's obviously got major mental and judgment issues. And I wouldn't be surprised if those kids - all 14 - grow up with issues of their own.
Wanna bet this woman tries to conceive even more kids? I mean, since her mother claims she's obsessed with having kids and doesn't seem to know when to stop.
Wanna bet this woman tries to conceive even more kids? I mean, since her mother claims she's obsessed with having kids and doesn't seem to know when to stop.
AnnRKeyintheUSA
War Child
This is really getting sadder all the time. I understand that those companies that usually bless people with free stuff don't want to encourge her, or others may follow her example on purpose just to get famous and get sponsored into an easy life. But the real victims here are those 14 kids, with their mother shunned, they're likely to suffer poverty and neglect all their lives, and be made fun of at school
If she's obsessed with having kids maybe she can rent out her body as a surrogate. That way she won't have to keep and raise them all, and she can make childless couples happy. Maybe some doggie rescue group can save this litter and adopt them all out to approved families before it's too late.
If she's obsessed with having kids maybe she can rent out her body as a surrogate. That way she won't have to keep and raise them all, and she can make childless couples happy. Maybe some doggie rescue group can save this litter and adopt them all out to approved families before it's too late.
mystery girl
The Fly
This is really getting sadder all the time. I understand that those companies that usually bless people with free stuff don't want to encourge her, or others may follow her example on purpose just to get famous and get sponsored into an easy life. But the real victims here are those 14 kids, with their mother shunned, they're likely to suffer poverty and neglect all their lives, and be made fun of at school
If she's obsessed with having kids maybe she can rent out her body as a surrogate. That way she won't have to keep and raise them all, and she can make childless couples happy. Maybe some doggie rescue group can save this litter and adopt them all out to approved families before it's too late.
The kids are the real victims. But from what I understand, they will be taken care of by the government. I think this is far better than the mother receiving sponsorships and gifts from big companies: the kids would get what they need without the mother getting the publicity she probably craves. Since the mother is "obsessed" with having kids, publicity may encourage her to have even more, which would not benefit her 14 existing kids at all. This story outrages me so much that I would probably boycott a company that promoted this madness.
AliEnvy
Refugee
How more bizarre can this get? I wouldn't be surprised at this point to find out one of the first 6 is sick and needed a sibling donor match.
What I still can't fathom is why the fertility doctor agreed to implant 8 embyros if current protocols are 2-3 max.
What I still can't fathom is why the fertility doctor agreed to implant 8 embyros if current protocols are 2-3 max.
AnnRKeyintheUSA
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Liesje
Blue Crack Addict
This is NUTS! If this woman adopted 14 dogs in 7 years she would be labeled a hoarder and animal control would be after her....
Galeongirl
Galeonbroad
So having 14 kids solves loneliness now?
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Bluer White
New Yorker
It's a reproductive choice.
(The state of California can afford her health care)
Bloomberg.com: U.S.
(The state of California can afford her health care)
Bloomberg.com: U.S.
corianderstem
Blue Crack Distributor
That's why I feel so funny being so judgemental of her. It's hard to be so in favor of reproductive choice in some areas, and so ZOMG IRRESPONSIBLE!!!!! in this area.
But I can't help it. I feel this woman has acted very irresponsibly.
But I can't help it. I feel this woman has acted very irresponsibly.
indra
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Yep it is. If she wants to use her body as a clown car, well, I'm not going to tell her she can't. And while I don't think huge families and litters of children are an ideal environment for most kids, they are her kids and her responsibility and unless she's abusive or seriously neglectful, I don't see that they are anyone else's business.
I am glad my mum didn't pull any shit like that though. I was the last of three kids. That was plenty. After all, why continue when you've achieved perfection.
Dirty Olde Town
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Oy vey. This woman, she has problems. Not the least of which is the idea that she will enjoy 8 more screaming infants. But you know, as a person who is childfree and happy, I don't understand why she wanted even one, let alone 14. I mean, seriously, lady, there are other, better ways of curing your lonliness than having litters. Even dogs and cats don't normally have more than 6. And they'r edesigned to have litters.
She needs to have those children removed and given to families that can afford to raise them well. She won't be able to do it.
ETA: Talk about 'baby rabies'. This woman is a prime example of what some childfree have labeled someone who can't breathe without talking about how much they want children.
She needs to have those children removed and given to families that can afford to raise them well. She won't be able to do it.
ETA: Talk about 'baby rabies'. This woman is a prime example of what some childfree have labeled someone who can't breathe without talking about how much they want children.
U2Girl1978
Blue Crack Addict
It looked like she had plastic surgery on her face.
MooMoo!
New Yorker
I thought she looked a bit like Angelina Jolie. 
redkat
Blue Crack Addict
I thought she looked a bit like Angelina Jolie.
I thought that too
I wonder if there are any old pictures of her ..(her lips) around. part of what pisses me off is all of the disability she's received from the state. If your body is strong enough to carry 8 babies I think you could have performed some sort of work over the past many years. Oh and how does someone who is disabled physically care for that many children?!
I really resent that she and young able bodied people like her collect funds, while elderly people go without necessary medications because they aren't getting their social security checks and that our system allows it to happen.
U2Girl1978
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I think what pisses me off the most about this is that there are alot of people who can't have kids. Here she is popping them out without a care in the world. She doesn't seem to care how it affects the people around her.
Galeongirl
Galeonbroad
Agreed with both last two posts.
This woman should be perfectly able to work, she's young and obviously physically healthy. And yet she gets tax money because she popped out 14 kids? That's ridiculous.
If she wants so many kids, she oughta work for it! And perhaps she should've found a father first, so at least one person in the family would have a job.
I know someone who badly wants to have a baby, but she has a disease in the ovaries so it's really hard to get one. After various treatments there's still no results.
This is a stable family where the financial situation is also stable and they would love to welcome a child and love it and care for it. But they seem unable to get one.
And then there's this single, jobless woman who's obsessed with children who gets 14 babies and lives off government money.
Fucked up situation. Badly badly messed up.
This woman should be perfectly able to work, she's young and obviously physically healthy. And yet she gets tax money because she popped out 14 kids? That's ridiculous.
If she wants so many kids, she oughta work for it! And perhaps she should've found a father first, so at least one person in the family would have a job.
I know someone who badly wants to have a baby, but she has a disease in the ovaries so it's really hard to get one. After various treatments there's still no results.
This is a stable family where the financial situation is also stable and they would love to welcome a child and love it and care for it. But they seem unable to get one.
And then there's this single, jobless woman who's obsessed with children who gets 14 babies and lives off government money.
Fucked up situation. Badly badly messed up.
MrsSpringsteen
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Octuplets' grandmother criticizes daughter
Mon Feb 9, 1:14 am ET
LOS ANGELES – The mother of the woman who used a fertility doctor to give birth to octuplets, despite already having six young children, called her daughter's actions "unconscionable" in an interview posted online Sunday.
Angela Suleman is caring for the six older children while her daughter is hospitalized after giving birth Jan. 26 to the octuplets.
"She already has six beautiful children, why would she do this?" Angela Suleman said in the videotaped interview with celebrity news Web site RadarOnline.com. "I'm struggling to look after her six. We had to put in bunk beds, feed them in shifts and there's children's clothing piled all over the house."
The Web site posted photographs from inside Angela Suleman's disheveled three-bedroom home, where Nadya and her brood also live. Heaps of clothing pour from an open closet door and a carpeted bedroom, where a bedsheet serves as a curtain, is cluttered with cribs.
Nadya Suleman's publicist Mike Furtney said that his client has been away for nearly two months, so shouldn't be held responsible for the home's current condition.
Furtney said his client planned to move into a larger home once the octuplets were healthy enough to leave doctors' care.
He declined to comment on any of the remarks Angela Suleman made about her daughter in the interview.
"Those are very personal issues between a mother and a daughter," he said.
Angela Suleman said Nadya's boyfriend was the biological father of all 14 children, but that she refused to marry him.
"He was in love with her and wanted to marry her," she said. "But Nadya wanted to have children on her own."
Nadya Suleman, a divorced single mother, told NBC's "Today" show that the same fertility specialist provided in-vitro fertilization for all 14 of her children.
Angela Suleman seemed to contradict that account, saying the fertility specialist who helped her daughter give birth to the octuplets was a different doctor from the one who aided in the birth of her first six children.
Angela Suleman said she and her husband pleaded with Nadya's first fertility doctor not to treat their daughter again, so Nadya found another doctor to work with.
"I'm really angry about that," Angela Suleman said of the doctor's decision to perform the procedure.
A Medical Board of California spokeswoman said Friday that it was investigating the doctor — who has not been identified — to see if there was a "violation of the standard of care." The spokeswoman did not elaborate on the nature of the potential violations.
Angela Suleman also challenged her daughter's remarks in the NBC interview that she always wanted a large family to make up for the loneliness she felt as an only child.
"We raised her in a loving family and her father always spoiled her," Angela said.
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Radar Online, Fresh Intelligence : Radar Online
Mon Feb 9, 1:14 am ET
LOS ANGELES – The mother of the woman who used a fertility doctor to give birth to octuplets, despite already having six young children, called her daughter's actions "unconscionable" in an interview posted online Sunday.
Angela Suleman is caring for the six older children while her daughter is hospitalized after giving birth Jan. 26 to the octuplets.
"She already has six beautiful children, why would she do this?" Angela Suleman said in the videotaped interview with celebrity news Web site RadarOnline.com. "I'm struggling to look after her six. We had to put in bunk beds, feed them in shifts and there's children's clothing piled all over the house."
The Web site posted photographs from inside Angela Suleman's disheveled three-bedroom home, where Nadya and her brood also live. Heaps of clothing pour from an open closet door and a carpeted bedroom, where a bedsheet serves as a curtain, is cluttered with cribs.
Nadya Suleman's publicist Mike Furtney said that his client has been away for nearly two months, so shouldn't be held responsible for the home's current condition.
Furtney said his client planned to move into a larger home once the octuplets were healthy enough to leave doctors' care.
He declined to comment on any of the remarks Angela Suleman made about her daughter in the interview.
"Those are very personal issues between a mother and a daughter," he said.
Angela Suleman said Nadya's boyfriend was the biological father of all 14 children, but that she refused to marry him.
"He was in love with her and wanted to marry her," she said. "But Nadya wanted to have children on her own."
Nadya Suleman, a divorced single mother, told NBC's "Today" show that the same fertility specialist provided in-vitro fertilization for all 14 of her children.
Angela Suleman seemed to contradict that account, saying the fertility specialist who helped her daughter give birth to the octuplets was a different doctor from the one who aided in the birth of her first six children.
Angela Suleman said she and her husband pleaded with Nadya's first fertility doctor not to treat their daughter again, so Nadya found another doctor to work with.
"I'm really angry about that," Angela Suleman said of the doctor's decision to perform the procedure.
A Medical Board of California spokeswoman said Friday that it was investigating the doctor — who has not been identified — to see if there was a "violation of the standard of care." The spokeswoman did not elaborate on the nature of the potential violations.
Angela Suleman also challenged her daughter's remarks in the NBC interview that she always wanted a large family to make up for the loneliness she felt as an only child.
"We raised her in a loving family and her father always spoiled her," Angela said.
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On the Web:
Radar Online, Fresh Intelligence : Radar Online
This just proves that Nadya has mental issues. I know it sounds harsh, but its true.
I predict that services will take all her kids away due to neglect.
Purplereign
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Damn, it just keeps getting sadder
The thing that really burns are the doctors -what the hey are they thinking - they either didn't do enough background checks, or don't really give a shit about the welfare of the people and children they are helping create - they hide behind that lame arsed argument about not being here to pass judgements
but they don't seem to give a jot about the quality of life these potential new little people will have . . .
I will happily be proved wrong on this one because it just makes me every kind of sad to think of the misery that could follow these 14 children around for a long time to come
The thing that really burns are the doctors -what the hey are they thinking - they either didn't do enough background checks, or don't really give a shit about the welfare of the people and children they are helping create - they hide behind that lame arsed argument about not being here to pass judgements
but they don't seem to give a jot about the quality of life these potential new little people will have . . . I will happily be proved wrong on this one because it just makes me every kind of sad to think of the misery that could follow these 14 children around for a long time to come
kafrun
Blue Crack Addict
Looks like she had at least a nose job and gross amounts of lip workIt looked like she had plastic surgery on her face.
She's obviously capable of coming up with the money for that on her own.This is my huge problem with the whole thing. This statement and her own words in an interview I watched last night where she said she had the need to connect and that's why she had children.
You don't have children to fulfill your own needs
That's a setup for disaster right there.mystery girl
The Fly
I wonder why she didn't think of her kids' "need to connect" - how will she be able to maintain a close relationship with each of her 14 children - especially when she has a special needs child that she will have to give extra attention to? I think that she thought of her own "needs" but gave no thought to her children's.
I just feel that while she has made a "reproductive choice", she has done so in a very irresponsible manner, and for extremely selfish reasons. Her kids will probably have to suffer for her thoughtlessness, and that's just not fair.
I just feel that while she has made a "reproductive choice", she has done so in a very irresponsible manner, and for extremely selfish reasons. Her kids will probably have to suffer for her thoughtlessness, and that's just not fair.
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