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Old 07-15-2016, 07:45 PM   #16
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Knowing Turkey's use of censorship, I don't trust anything coming out of that country.
north american and western european journalists are reporting this. but i read on twitter just now that it was only one corps. i have no idea how big the turkish army is but that's certainly not the whole thing.

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You "just don't want to see more fuel added to that particular fire" either, Dave?
i have no idea what this is supposed to mean.
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Old 07-15-2016, 07:48 PM   #17
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Given that even those who oppose Erdogan are calling for the people to resist the coup, I'm thinking the folks orchestrating it aren't the good guys either.

I just hope this can be resolved without a full scale civil war.

That's what I fear. That the perpetrators are not what they were initially reported.
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Old 07-15-2016, 08:09 PM   #18
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Already conspiracy theories that this is a staged coup by Erdogan himself and he will arise as dictator tomorrow.

Don't believe conspiracy theories of course, but this is something he would do. He's a pretty terrible human being.
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ok yea, i read up a little more. fuck this guy.
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On the one hand, fuck Erdogan. On the other, I am not down with military coups.

So this is just great huh.
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Erdogan is scum, and if you look up past instances of military dictatorships in a Turkish context, they're horrifying and just a different type of scum.

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Looks like the coup is being put down
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I don't believe it. I mean, I don't want to, but I get the impression that's a move from a weak position trying to mask their holes by controlling what headlines get put out there.
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ok yea, i read up a little more. fuck this guy.
Nice to see that once you state an opinion you are not locked into it.
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I don't believe it. I mean, I don't want to, but I get the impression that's a move from a weak position trying to mask their holes by controlling what headlines get put out there.
Sadly I think he wins and now will be even worse. I think the country is 50% secular and 50% Muslim extreme.
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This is bad for Europe and the E U.
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Already conspiracy theories that this is a staged coup by Erdogan himself and he will arise as dictator tomorrow.

Don't believe conspiracy theories of course, but this is something he would do. He's a pretty terrible human being.
Bizarre, but this coup does look a little weak. A real coup would have blown the Son of a bitch up, or blown his plane out of the sky. This event will launch a full stage dictatorship for him now. No one will dare say a contrary word now.
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Venezuela should learn a thing or two from the Turkish.
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Venezuela should learn a thing or two from the Turkish.
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Erdogan is not a leader Turkey can be proud of (numerous human rights violations, less and less a secular state). But I'm not sure if this coup will achieve progress in Turkey.
It failed.

More Erdogan, unfortunately.
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