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Old 05-01-2009, 11:44 AM   #91
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everything that's wrong with our culture in pictures



That's Heidi and Spencer from The Hills.
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^ that blows my mind.

i cannot wait for The Soup tonight.
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That's Heidi and Spencer from The Hills.

I know-and I'm so ashamed that I do. They got married-again. And went to Mexico for their honeymoon. I wonder if he's really a total ass or if he just plays one on tv. My guess-really is.
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Old 05-01-2009, 11:58 AM   #95
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i cannot wait for The Soup tonight.
I love that show- I always have to catch it on On Demand because the E channel's schedule is so random. I'm way behind, life should not get in the way of On Demand.

If the swine flu is going to get anyone Spencer Pratt should be a top priority
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Dear Mexico:

You can keep Speidi.

No, really. KEEP THEM.

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Heidi's breasts came back home but part of them still crossed into Mexico
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cock! a case just confirmed ten mins from where i live!
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Is that like breast! ?
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I'm relieved that I have no idea who those people are or what the hell The Hills is.
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You're both losers
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Audrina Patridge of Hills is the daughter and neice of 2 HS buddies that were friends of mine growing up in So. Cal.

Anyway, back to the topic at hand, I just got this from some of my people:

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A friend of ours is a Dr. down in the San Marcos/NB area and sent this out. I felt it contained some insightful stuff not seen on the news.
Marc is a very intelligent and "with it" guy, he worked as a botanist for Pfizer in South America...then decided to become a Dr.

I hope it helps answer some questions and it does have some good suggestions for alternative medications ect.

"After I returned from a public health meeting yesterday with community leaders and school officials in Comal County, Heather suggested I send an update to everyone, because what we are hearing privately from the CDC and Health Department is so different from what you are hearing in the media. Some of you know some or maybe all of this, but I will just list what facts I know.

- The virus is infectious for about 2 days prior to symptom onset
- Virus sheds more than 7 days after symptom onset (possibly as long as 9 days) (this is unusual)
- Since it is such a novel (new) virus, there is no "herd immunity," so the "attack rate" is very high. This is the percentage of people who come down with a virus if exposed. Almost everyone who is exposed to this virus will become infected, though not all will be symptomatc. That is much higher than seasonal flu, which averages 10-15%. The "clinical attack rate" may be around 40-50%. This is the number of people who show symptoms. This is a huge number. It is hard to convey the seriousness of this.
- The virulence (deadliness) of this virus is as bad here as in Mexico, and there are folks on ventilators here in the US, right now. This has not been in the media, but a 23 month old near here is fighting for his life, and a pregnant woman just south of San Antonio is fighting for her life. In Mexico, these folks might have died already, but here in the US, folks are getting Tamiflu or Relenza quickly, and we have ready access to ventilators. What this means is that within a couple of weeks, regional hospitals will likely become overwhelmed.
- Some of the kids with positive cases in Comal County had more than 70 contacts before diagnosis.
- There are 10-25 times more actual cases (not "possible" cases -- actual), than what is being reported in the media. The way they fudge on reporting this is that it takes 3 days to get the confirmatory nod from the CDC on a given viral culture, but based on epidemiological grounds, we know that there are more than 10 cases for each "confirmed" case right now.
- During the night, we crossed the threshold for the definition of a WHO, Phase 6 global pandemic. This has not happened in any of our lifetimes so far. We are in uncharted territory.
- I expect President Obama will declare an emergency sometime in the next 72-96 hours. This may not happen, but if it doesn't, I will be surprised. When this happens, all public gathering will be cancelled for 10 days.
- I suggest all of us avoid public gatherings. Outdoor activities are not as likely to lead to infection. It is contained areas and close contact that are the biggest risk.
- Tamiflu is running out. There is a national stockpile, but it will have to be carefully managed, as it is not enough to treat the likely number of infections when this is full-blown. I don't think there is a big supply of Relenza, but I do not know those numbers. If I had to choose, I would take Relenza, as I think it gets more drug to the affected tissue than Tamiflu.
- You should avoid going to the ER if you think you have been exposed or are symptomatic. ER's south of here are becoming overwhelmed -- and I mean that -- already. It is coming in waves, but the waves are getting bigger.
- It appears that this flu produces a distinctive "hoarseness" in many victims. The symptoms, in general, match other flu's; namely, sore throat, body aches, headache, cough, and fever. Some have all these symptoms, while others may have only one or two.
- N-Acetyl-Cysteine -- a nutritional supplement available at the health food store or Wimberley Pharmacy, has been shown to prevent or lessen the severity of influenza. I suggest 1200mg, twice a day for adults, and 600mg twice a day in kids over 12. It would be hard to get kids under 12 to take it, but you could try opening the capsules and putting it on yogurt. For 40 pounds and up, 300-600 mg twice a day, for less than 40 pounds, half that.
- Oscillococinum, a homeopathic remedy, has been vindicated as quite effective in a large clinical trial in Europe, with an H1N1 variant. You can buy this at Hill Country Natural Foods, or the Wimberley Pharmacy I am adding to this ( Teresa) you can get these at Whole Foods , Wild Oats or Sprouts etc or any health food organic places


I will try to keep everyone posted if I have any new information. Meanwhile, don't be afraid just avoid infection. The fewer people infected the easier it will be for our public officials to manage it."
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so i'm reading diamonds post and i'm thinking about how this morning i was coughing a bit and i remembered being hoarse yesterday and i sneezed earlier, and all of this i would have just chalked up to mild allergic reactions to the pollen at this time of year. but then i think about all the time i spend on the metro and i'm looking at my desk and wondering if i can't find some desk cleaner and i start to think about my compromised lungs and get worried. and then i read this:


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Va. reports first 2 cases of confirmed swine flu
May 1, 2009 - 4:48am
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RICHMOND, Va. (AP) - A man and a woman from Virginia contracted swine flu from recent trips to Mexico and have recovered after mild cases, Gov. Timothy M. Kaine said Thursday.

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention confirmed that one man from eastern Virginia and a woman from central Virginia contracted the illness, Health Commissioner Karen Remley said.

"This is an evolving situation, so people still need take it very seriously," Remley said.

Neither patient required hospitalization, she said, and both are otherwise healthy adults.

Citing patient privacy, Remley and Kaine refused to be more specific about the patients, including characterizing them as young, middle-aged or elderly. Remley narrowed down the location of the man to the Hampton Roads, Peninsula or Northern Neck regions of the state.

Virginia is the 12th state to have flu cases confirmed by the CDC, bringing the total to 111 cases nationally. Officials in eight states have confirmed an additional 19 cases.

Twelve deaths in Mexico and one in the United States have resulted from confirmed cases caused by the virus, an outbreak the World Health Organization calls a pandemic.

"Given the size of the state's population (and) the seasonal travel patterns we see in Virginia and elsewhere, and the ease with which the flu virus is spread, we think it is likely there will be additional cases," Kaine said.

In heavy numbers, Virginians with some of the cold-like symptoms have been checking with their doctors, Kaine said. Some of the cases have been lesser ailments such as seasonal allergies. What distinguishes swine flu from those maladies is a fever, he said.

It's the second news conference Kaine has held this week about a disease that has caused only minor problems so far in Virginia. He dismissed the suggestion that the threat was being overplayed because its potential for harm is not fully known.

"This is a strain of flu that we have not seen. There is not a vaccine for it. It has proven virulent in Mexico; we don't yet understand why the cases in the United States have not proven to be virulent," Kaine said. "Forewarned is forearmed."

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RICHMOND, Va. (AP) - A man and a woman from Virginia contracted swine flu from recent trips to Mexico and have recovered after mild cases, Gov. Timothy M. Kaine said Thursday.

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention confirmed that one man from eastern Virginia and a woman from central Virginia contracted the illness, Health Commissioner Karen Remley said.

"This is an evolving situation, so people still need take it very seriously," Remley said.

Neither patient required hospitalization, she said, and both are otherwise healthy adults.

Citing patient privacy, Remley and Kaine refused to be more specific about the patients, including characterizing them as young, middle-aged or elderly. Remley narrowed down the location of the man to the Hampton Roads, Peninsula or Northern Neck regions of the state.

Virginia is the 12th state to have flu cases confirmed by the CDC, bringing the total to 111 cases nationally. Officials in eight states have confirmed an additional 19 cases.

Twelve deaths in Mexico and one in the United States have resulted from confirmed cases caused by the virus, an outbreak the World Health Organization calls a pandemic.

"Given the size of the state's population (and) the seasonal travel patterns we see in Virginia and elsewhere, and the ease with which the flu virus is spread, we think it is likely there will be additional cases," Kaine said.

In heavy numbers, Virginians with some of the cold-like symptoms have been checking with their doctors, Kaine said. Some of the cases have been lesser ailments such as seasonal allergies. What distinguishes swine flu from those maladies is a fever, he said.

It's the second news conference Kaine has held this week about a disease that has caused only minor problems so far in Virginia. He dismissed the suggestion that the threat was being overplayed because its potential for harm is not fully known.

"This is a strain of flu that we have not seen. There is not a vaccine for it. It has proven virulent in Mexico; we don't yet understand why the cases in the United States have not proven to be virulent," Kaine said. "Forewarned is forearmed."


so two people got mildly ill and now they are better. is there much more to all this than this?
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