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Old 01-17-2008, 10:41 PM   #76
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Old 01-18-2008, 12:22 AM   #77
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my audio is out on this comp

perhaps later


ok

I watched and listened

on my laptop

and

not much there

unless one is asking himself

"could I see myself participating in that, could that be for me?"

since, I am not one that cares much for or is swayed by dogmas

so what
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Old 01-18-2008, 07:10 AM   #78
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I don't like Scientology. I got really pissed when Tom Cruise got onto Brooke Shields for taking antidepressants.
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Old 01-18-2008, 07:46 AM   #79
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I watched it, too, and the worst thing I can say about it is that I think Tom Cruise is on a messianic trip within the church of Scientology. His ego is clearly off the charts. But it seems to be a film not meant for outsiders and in that sense it was no different to me than people inside the church (in any religion) getting together and affirming to one another that they are the chosen ones and every one else is going to burn in hell.
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Old 01-18-2008, 09:44 AM   #80
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I watched it, too, and the worst thing I can say about it is that I think Tom Cruise is on a messianic trip within the church of Scientology. His ego is clearly off the charts.
I really think there is something off about him, mentally, which is totally unrelated to Scientology (except possibly in the sense that he should be medicated). Many times I felt that he was completely manic, not just in his behaviour, but his mannerisms, etc.
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I really think there is something off about him, mentally, which is totally unrelated to Scientology (except possibly in the sense that he should be medicated). Many times I felt that he was completely manic, not just in his behaviour, but his mannerisms, etc.
Could be that, too.
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Old 01-18-2008, 10:27 AM   #82
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Tom's pretty kerazy, but he's crazy and hateful, like that SuperCatholic Mel Gibson.
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it's probably not fair, and i'm sure if i grew up in the dark ages i'd say a lot of the same things about die hard christians, but i just can't take someone seriously who believes that we're the ancestors of alien warlords who were killed in hawai'ian volcanos by the evil lord xenu.
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Old 01-18-2008, 11:31 AM   #84
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Scientologists can believe whatever crazy thing they want -- I could really care less about the beliefs -- but their methods make me very, very uncomfortable.
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Scientologists can believe whatever crazy thing they want -- I could really care less about the beliefs -- but their methods make me very, very uncomfortable.
I couldn't care less either, and I know a little bit about their methods. Tom Cruise can believe whatever he wants and it is a religion to him and that's perfectly fine. He can jump on couches, whatever he wants to do-but the Brooke Shields thing really made me angry and was way over the line. Something like that is very harmful and as a woman it really ticked me off. Postpartum depression is a very real physical issue and he has no business even implying otherwise. I have read a bit about their issues with psychiatry (I believe L Ron Hubbard had a personal issue that led to that psychiatry issue, could be wrong about that) but it does help many people, so to act as if all it does is harm people is wrong. And to speak like you know all about it because of what Scientology says about it, well...

I saw the video of him saluting the LRH portrait and that was a bit strange. But that isn't hurting any other people.
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Tom's pretty kerazy, but he's crazy and hateful, like that SuperCatholic Mel Gibson.
I don't like Mel Gibson either, but just because he is Catholic does not make him crazy or hateful.

Just sayin... And I know you weren't implying all Catholics are crazy and hateful, at least I hope you weren't.
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I don't like Mel Gibson either, but just because he is Catholic does not make him crazy or hateful.

Just sayin... And I know you weren't implying all Catholics are crazy and hateful, at least I hope you weren't.
Not to speak for Irvine, but I think he was saying that crazy isn't limited to any particular belief system.

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Scientologists can believe whatever crazy thing they want -- I could really care less about the beliefs -- but their methods make me very, very uncomfortable.
That's precisely the way I feel.
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Not to speak for Irvine, but I think he was saying that crazy isn't limited to any particular belief system.


or that any belief system, when taken to extremes and washed of skepticism, doubt, and humility, can inspire craziness.

i'm also a confirmed catholic. but don't really have much use for mass these days.
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i'm also a confirmed catholic. but don't really have much use for mass these days.

Even mass Oreos, rice or pasta? Wait as second, I'm thinking of 'bulk' aren't I? What does Costco specialize in?
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Even mass Oreos, rice or pasta? Wait as second, I'm thinking of 'bulk' aren't I? What does Costco specialize in?


i got a great suitcase there for under $100. samsonite. i was happy.

but Costco freaks me out. it looks like the End of Days in there when the apocolypse is near, and the endgame of capitalism has given way to mass looting.
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