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Old 06-08-2009, 12:46 PM   #706
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Big John, sounds like you live in a shit hole

Time to move house if its so bad/dangerous
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Old 06-08-2009, 12:56 PM   #707
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it's actually a very nice place, it's just that in the VI breakins are a lot more common anywhere on the island.


i guess im saying if someone broke in, id be glad i had a gun, as opposed to not having one, and wouldnt hesitate to use it. i certainly wouldnt enjoy shooting someone, but if it's them or me, it's gonna be me.
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Old 06-08-2009, 02:45 PM   #708
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I would actually shit myself if someone broke in again if i was in...

When i was at uni a guy broke in and i was in. It was about 11pm and i was revising for an exam i had 2 days later. I heard a door creak and i knew the girl in that room was away for the weekend. I came out and he had a laptop in his hand. I always though i would charge at someone/hit them if i saw anyone in my house, but i didnt have a clue what to do and my heart was racing. We were both upstairs and i dragged him down the stairs into the street and was hoping someone would come out and help me as i'm no Mike Tyson. He knocked my specs off so i could see properly as we scuffled, smacking into parked cars. I had him against the wall but then he put his hand in his pocket so i let him go as i thought he was gonna stab me. They caught him a few days later.

I had no idea what the hell i was doing and i'd never punched anyone until that day. He got 18 months in the end as i knocked his cap off and they got DNA off that and one of the neighbours who came out into the street identified him. He was a regular offender and as i lived in a student area, he had taken laptops from other houses before. I failed to recognise the guy as i could not see clearly AND the pics the police gave were all clean shaven guys when this guy had a beard on him. So i was like WTF? At least have him look how he was on the night!

Not a nice experience. If only i had my cricket bat near me i would have smacked him in the face. From now on i keep the bat near me when sleeping. Thats why i am so right wing as MOST people in this world are bad apples.
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Old 06-08-2009, 02:52 PM   #709
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if you had a gun would you have used it? now after the fact you might say no, but in the heat of the moment, you never know. it might've turned into a deadly situation if the guy pulled a weapon on you.

smacking someone in the face with a baseball bat might produce the same result.

obviously thats not really a life or death situation, as he was just there to steal shit. you might have a hard time justifying blowing someone away for stealing a computer. but late at night and your door crashes open, all you know is someone is breaking in, you dont know what their intentions are, to simply steal, or to rape or murder, or both.

thats another thing, you go to confront them unarmed and they pull a knife or a gun. not a very good situation.
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Old 06-08-2009, 02:54 PM   #710
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I dont think i would be able to shoot someone. I'd panick and would not be able to press the trigger lol

But i was so angry for about 2 weeks and then thought, oh forget it, shit happens. This was about 2 years ago now
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You don't have to shoot them, it's just nice to have one to show them and encourage them to leave.
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Old 06-08-2009, 02:57 PM   #712
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you couldnt pull a trigger, but you could beat someone to death with a bat?
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Old 06-08-2009, 03:01 PM   #713
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You don't have to shoot them, it's just nice to have one to show them and encourage them to leave.
i'd never pull my piece unless i was going to use it. you pull it out and start flashing it around at them and they pull one and next thing you know you have a gunfight.

or you pull it out and they say "fuck you shoot me" then what? still not really justified.

but yeah, most of the time it'll make them piss themselves and run away.
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Old 06-08-2009, 03:05 PM   #714
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It wouldn't be out with the intent of not using it, the situation just usually resolves before you have to. If they have one it's not likely to be concealed when they come through the door.
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Old 06-08-2009, 03:12 PM   #715
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i meant on the street if im CCing. if im in a situation where it has to come out, it's coming out blasting, not for show.

at home, thats a different story and you can use them to scare people off. shit, you could walk around with a shotgun slung on your back and a .44 mag stuffed down the front of your pants.
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Old 06-08-2009, 03:18 PM   #716
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I wouldnt kill them with a bat
just knock them out
i'd kick them in the balls to disable them for a bit
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Yeah I meant at home. On the street I'd hope that if I had to pull it that would be enough too. I'd rather have them get scared off than have to shoot.
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I wouldnt kill them with a bat
just knock them out
i'd kick them in the balls to disable them for a bit
so violent!

so beating the shit out of people with bats is ok, but guns are the anti-christ?

and you know the exact force needed for the bat to just knock them out, as opposed to bashing their brains out? you that skilled at beating the shit out of people with bats?
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Old 06-08-2009, 03:42 PM   #719
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cricket bats dont kill people, rappers do



(joke)

you can hit a ball for 4 with a cricket bat, cant do the same with guns so they are pretty useless
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what if there was someone out there trying to brake in? I know what i would do, as soon as they broke through the door, i'd have "neutralized" them. since i have the gun, what would you all have me do? not use it? obviously someone trying to break into my apartment at 2am isnt just stopping in to say hello. and what if i didnt have the gun? what should i do then? call the police? i would be lucky if they showed up in an hour, if at all. i live on the west side of the island which is pretty desolate and isolated. since i live alone, what would you have me do in that situation, with or without the gun?
Please explain what you mean by "neutralize." If by neutralize you mean explain (and show) to the robber that you have a gun, are highly trained in its use and that they'd better comply while you call the cops and/or cuff them, then yes, by all means, use it to "neutralize" the intruder.

If by neutralize you mean shoot first, ask questions later, then no.
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