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Old 05-03-2009, 07:44 AM   #391
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so, according to that definition, if i customized my $100 walmart .22 semi-auto rifle with a pistol grip and a folding stock, it would become an "assault rifle?"

i think the only thing that would be good for assaulting would be squirrels and rabbits
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Old 05-03-2009, 08:28 AM   #392
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Yeah, if you hurry and put some stickers on your car it's not too late to race in next weeks NASCAR event.
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Old 05-03-2009, 12:52 PM   #393
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Folding or telescoping stock
Pistol grip
Bayonet mount
Flash suppressor
Well a folding or telescoping stock would allow one to conceal easier, correct?

Why would any hunter need a pistol grip on a rifle? What would that be used for? Gosh, I don't know.

You say these things are just aesthetics, but I say they are for intent. So I ask you again, can you show me why any law abiding citizen would need any of these things?
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Why do cars go over 55 mph?
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Old 05-03-2009, 01:01 PM   #395
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Why would any hunter need a pistol grip on a rifle? What would that be used for? Gosh, I don't know.



preference maybe?
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Old 05-03-2009, 01:03 PM   #396
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Why do cars go over 55 mph?
So we're back to this weak argument again?

I know it might be hard for you to believe but cars are not only for entertainment, they actually serve a purpose of transport.

Guns were designed for one purpose.
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Old 05-03-2009, 01:08 PM   #397
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preference maybe?
I've never in my life met a hunter that used a pistol grip. A pistol grip is designed so that a rifle can be versitile, can be used with stock on shoulder or held low... I've never in my life met a hunter that shot from the hip not using a sight.
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I've never in my life met a hunter that shot from the hip not using a sight.



that is a funny thought
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So we're back to this weak argument again?

I know it might be hard for you to believe but cars are not only for entertainment, they actually serve a purpose of transport.

Guns were designed for one purpose.
Thats gotta make it doubly tragic that they kill four times as many people a year as guns.
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Thats gotta make it doubly tragic that they kill four times as many people a year as guns.
How many of them intentionally?
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I don't think anyone really keeps track of that, sadly. By the way, your argument about banning cosmetic aspects of firearms is much weaker.
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I don't think anyone really keeps track of that, sadly.
If there's a charge for voluntary vehicular manslaughter, there's probably a way to track the figures.

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By the way, your argument about banning cosmetic aspects of firearms is much weaker.
Why, because you haven't been able to prove that they are only cosmetic? At least bigjohn tried to engage in that debate and answer my questions.
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i understand the concerns with the accessories that could make a rifle easier to conceal, more versatile, magazine capacity, etc etc. almost all of these "assault weapons" are still only semi-automatic COPIES of military-style weapons. when i think of the term "assault weapon", i think of a military issued weapon (fully decked out with lazer scopes, night vison, etc) with select fire semi and full automatic, maybe even 3 round burst. some even have grenade launchers or even shotguns (see the movie Predator ) underneith the barrel. NOT some semi-automatic copy any joe schmoe can buy from JimBob's gun shop.

the problem i have is labeling those guns with those certain components "assault weapons" is that it makes them sound scarier than they are and makes the public think people are out walking around with military weapons, which they arent. like i said earlier, i could customize my $100 walmart .22 with folding stock and pistol grip and it would be considered an "assault weapon". OOOOH sooo scary

id love to see some statistics, if there are any, showing the rates of gun violence using these dreaded "assault weapons" versus handguns and other kinds of firearms. id be willing to bet "assault weapons" are towards the bottom if not last on the list. someone walks into someplace with pistols and blows a bunch of people away and we hear about "assault weapons" and banning them in the media.
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Why, because you haven't been able to prove that they are only cosmetic? At least bigjohn tried to engage in that debate and answer my questions.
I find it pointless to debate when the stats show how little rifles of that type are used in crimes.
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