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Old 04-27-2009, 10:19 PM   #301
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were all these people criminals before they had guns?

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Old 04-28-2009, 07:11 AM   #302
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here is a study done by Harvard, of all places.

Harvard Study: Gun Control Is Counterproductive (The ACRU Blog)
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Old 04-28-2009, 08:34 AM   #303
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Read the second comment, it really isn't a study...
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Old 04-28-2009, 09:00 AM   #304
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Read the second comment, it really isn't a study...
i did, it's a review of the study

there is a link to the actual study in the review

http://www.law.harvard.edu/students/...useronline.pdf

i guess i have to spoon-feed you
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Old 04-28-2009, 09:42 AM   #305
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Yes, but glancing through the link it just looks like it's comparing and summarizing other people's work, there were no new numbers or information developed. Not that a review isn't a valid form. I'm not sure how it works in a social/ law community, but I know scientific papers have a certain hierarchy if you will; primary sources vs secondary sources, science vs clinical trials, with reviews being on the lower end.

No spoonfeeding needed, I saw the link the first time.
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Old 04-28-2009, 10:41 AM   #306
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They weren't allowed on campus during Va Tech. More laws don't do anything but give criminals something to ignore and politicians a way to get elected.
Remind me again, what the criminal record was of these folks involved in the recent mass shootings?

My issue with guns has never been about keeping them out of the hands of "criminals." Criminals will break the laws and get ahold of guns anyway.

It's all the so-called "regular" people I worry about. And to be frank, these folks that think they're going to pull out their guns and shoot the baddies down worry me more than most--the cowboy mentality of many gun owners is worrisome. I guarantee the number of incidences where a law-abiding citizen lost his/her temper and shot someone in a fit of rage far outnumber the situations where a law-abiding citizen shot down the bad guy and saved the day.
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gotcha good, didn't i?
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gotcha good, didn't i?

You mean criminals that stole their guns weren't criminals for stealing?
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Or those that bought their guns and never were criminals until that day, or people that took their father's gun, you keep trying to just paint one scenario.
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You mean criminals that stole their guns weren't criminals for stealing?


all guns used in crime were stolen?

i someone a criminal *before* they kill someone with a gun if they haven't done anything before? since only criminals commit crimes with guns.
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Old 04-29-2009, 02:25 AM   #311
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all guns used in crime were stolen?

i someone a criminal *before* they kill someone with a gun if they haven't done anything before? since only criminals commit crimes with guns.

No just a majority. I've had a gun for 27 years and it's never made me a criminal.
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No just a majority. I've had a gun for 27 years and it's never made me a criminal.
I own a few knives, shovels, and pitch forks...etc

the same experience here.


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Guns make you a criminal, just like music and movies and video games can. I guess.
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Guns make you a criminal, just like music and movies and video games can. I guess.


one of those things has only one purpose, which is to kill.

the others just kills brain cells.
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