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Old 08-24-2011, 04:20 PM   #1
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Mental Health Group Wants Pedophilia De-Stigmatized

I know this is from FOXNews.com and I'm hoping this isn't true. But what if it is? What have people come to?

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A group of psychiatrists and other mental health professionals say it's time to change the way society views individuals who have physical attractions to children.
The organization, which calls itself B4U-Act, is lobbying for changes to the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, or DSM, the guideline of standards on mental health that's put together by the American Psychiatric Association.
The group says its mission is to help pedophiles before they create a crisis, and to do so by offering a less critical view of the disorder.
"Stigmatizing and stereotyping minor-attracted people inflames the fears of minor-attracted people, mental health professionals and the public, without contributing to an understanding of minor-attracted people or the issue of child sexual abuse," reads the organization's website.
B4U-Act said that 38 individuals attended a symposium in Baltimore last week, including researchers from Harvard University, Johns Hopkins University and the universities of Illinois and Louisville. According to the group, which said to not endorse every point of view expressed, the speakers in attendance concluded that "minor-attracted" individuals are largely misunderstood and should not be criminalized even as their actions should be discouraged.
Speakers also argued that people who are sexually attracted to children should have input into the decision about how pedophilia is defined in the DSM, which they said is supposed to be a guide to promote “mental health vs. social control.”
The American Psychiatric Association did not participate in the conference, and evidently does not condone the group's message.
"An adult who engages in sexual activity with a child is performing a criminal and immoral act and this is never considered normal or socially acceptable behavior," the APA wrote in a 2003 position statement.
Critics of the effort also note that the movement likens its fight for pedophilia acceptance to society's more recent embrace of homosexuality. They warn of a slippery slope to a time when pedophilia is "just another lifestyle choice" that won't warrant criminal charges—and will leave young children at risk.


Read more: Mental Health Group Looks To Remove Stigma From Pedophilia | FoxNews.com

I think this group is foolish to think pedophiles are simply "misunderstood". I assume they believe this would help combat the disease, but they're taking the wrong direction.

What do you think can be done about pedophiles? I've read over and over that there is no cure. Personally, I think they should be executed since they're a danger to society and don't realize what they're doing is wrong. For the record, this is the only time I support capital punishment.
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The APA's opinion is really what matters here, and they're clearly not on board; just more baseless media hysteria.
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I know this is from FOXNews.com

which means it's designed to drum up fear and hysteria.

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Critics of the effort also note that the movement likens its fight for pedophilia acceptance to society's more recent embrace of homosexuality. They warn of a slippery slope to a time when pedophilia is "just another lifestyle choice" that won't warrant criminal charges—and will leave young children at risk.
it's so unspeakably offensive to be in the same sentence, i can't stand it.




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What do you think can be done about pedophiles? I've read over and over that there is no cure. Personally, I think they should be executed since they're a danger to society and don't realize what they're doing is wrong. For the record, this is the only time I support capital punishment.

um, what? firstly, there's a huge difference between being a pedophile and actually acting upon it. most pedophiles can't help their attraction, know that it's wrong, hate themselves, and actually don't act on it. they live sad lives in many ways, and it's incredibly depressing to think about on so many levels.

for those who actually do act and prey upon children, yes, there is a high rate of recidivism, but execution?
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Old 08-24-2011, 04:56 PM   #4
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for those who actually do act and prey upon children, yes, there is a high rate of recidivism, but execution?
OK, enlighten me. What do you think should be done about someone who molested dozens of children and is not ashamed?

I say execution maybe because I am so disgusted with the pedophiles who don't care about what they do and how they are hurting others. But really, how else do you solve the problem? And there's plenty of people of all different political beliefs who say execution is the only way.
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For the record, this is the only time I support capital punishment.
OK, enlighten me. What do you think should be done about someone who killed dozens of people and is not ashamed?
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Nice come back. I'm impressed.

If you really want to know, let them live in isolation, where they can't go around being happy about what they did?

Seriously, don't you think child molestors are worse than serial killers?
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OK, enlighten me. What do you think should be done about someone who molested dozens of children and is not ashamed?
put in jail and/or receive extensive psychiatric treatment?
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put in jail and/or receive extensive psychiatric treatment?
But there's nothing that can be done. There's no medication or therapy that gets these people to stop being what they are.
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But there's nothing that can be done. There's no medication or therapy that gets these people to stop being what they are.

how much do you actually know about this topic? do you think that your conclusion that they need to be killed might stem from that?
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This might sound crazy and would probably be considered "cruel and unusual," but maybe child molesters should be castrated. The same should be done to rapists of any kind, IMO, at least if they want to live in society with the rest of us and can't control their urges. I know that sounds like something that would be done in the Dark Ages, but it would be a pretty good deterrent from that kind of behavior, and it's not like they don't deserve it.

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Thank you for being such a bully, Irvine. I expected more from you.

I've read various and legit psychology websites where they've all said very little can be done about pedophiles.

Since you seem to be in know about this topic, why don't you show me where it says child molestors can indeed be rehabilitated. Even you said above that relapse is high.
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But there's nothing that can be done. There's no medication or therapy that gets these people to stop being what they are.
Same could be argued with murderers and serial killers. Why only execute pedophiles?
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You didn't answer my previous question: don't you think pedophiles are worse than murderers?
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I don't even know if I want to say anything, even in a devil's advocate kind of way about this subject because pedophile troubles me so much, but I've been messing around on Stumbleupon recently and I get a lot of ancient Rome/Greek info since I love history and it tailors the stumbles to your interests. Anyways, in regards to this topic and the idea that it's a lifestyle and what have you, what do you have to say to the fact that pedophile wasn't always a stigma and was actually the norm?

 
I almost didn't submit this post, and really only did in order to get a bit more discussion in a different direction going. I can't even begin to describe how disgusted I am by child molesters, though I've explained my reasons in the past. But execution? No, I don't think I can get behind that.
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They're equally as bad. I won't classify one over the other. Why don't you ask the family of a murder victim that question?
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