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Old 05-30-2010, 10:35 PM   #1
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Memorial Day

And I'm proud to be an American,
where at least I know I'm free.
And I won't forget the men who died,
who gave that right to me.


~Lee Greenwood



Can you imagine a world today if young Americans had not gone to war?

Wars not started by the United States.

Can you imagine a Nazi world?


Their sacrifice is worth remembering.
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Old 05-31-2010, 08:59 AM   #2
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I assume you are talking about the second world war. The Allies in that war, believe it or not, consisted of more than Americans.
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Old 05-31-2010, 10:37 AM   #3
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I assume you are talking about the second world war. The Allies in that war, believe it or not, consisted of more than Americans.
But not the Irish, right?
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Old 05-31-2010, 11:19 AM   #4
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i think we need a better Memorial Day thread that doesn't include a quote form a hack song written by a hack songwriter to drum up support for the first Gulf War.
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Old 05-31-2010, 11:35 AM   #5
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The Allies in that war, believe it or not, consisted of more than Americans.
I think we're all aware of that. Believe it or not, today is an American national holiday in which we honor our fallen soldiers who have protected our liberties hence the focus on Americans who sacrificed....there is no need try to start a stupid arguement.
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Old 05-31-2010, 12:38 PM   #6
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But not the Irish, right?
Plenty of irish people fought in the Second World War.
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I think we're all aware of that. Believe it or not, today is an American national holiday in which we honor our fallen soldiers who have protected our liberties hence the focus on Americans who sacrificed....there is no need try to start a stupid arguement.


but the working assumption in the thread was that it was the US alone who liberated Europe. it's quite understandable that non-Americans, and many Americans, find this attitude irritating, no matter the holiday.

i also object to the blanket assumption that every dead American solider died to protect "my" "liberties" -- not many of my liberties were at stake in Iraq or Vietnam.

instead of welding a political message -- like that ghastly song quoted in the OP -- to the bravery of people willing to face the abject horror of battle, let's just appreciate their sacrifice and bravery, no matter the conflict.
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let's just appreciate their sacrifice and bravery, no matter the conflict.
Yes.
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But not the Irish, right?
Kieran isn't Irish, notwithstanding his name. But you're correct that Ireland was a neutral country.
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to the bravery of people willing to face the abject horror of battle, let's just appreciate their sacrifice and bravery, no matter the conflict.
Well sad! Cheers to that!
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-- to the bravery of people willing to face the abject horror of battle, let's just appreciate their sacrifice and bravery, no matter the conflict.


have you gone too far on the other side

are you now just honoring war?


so we want to honor the Nazi soldiers, the Imperialist Japanese soldiers, Taliban soldiers?
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have you gone too far on the other side

are you now just honoring war?


so we want to honor the Nazi soldiers, the Imperialist Japanese soldiers, Taliban soldiers?
:/ No, it's more like:

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have you gone too far on the other side

are you now just honoring war?


so we want to honor the Nazi soldiers, the Imperialist Japanese soldiers, Taliban soldiers?
Can't we just have some burgers and hang out with family and maybe think about our fallen American soldiers today? Gosh.

Thanks to our American service people, past and present.
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have you gone too far on the other side

are you now just honoring war?


so we want to honor the Nazi soldiers, the Imperialist Japanese soldiers, Taliban soldiers?

What the hell, deep. What the hell. Sometimes you need to think through your posts before you make them.
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