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Old 06-18-2015, 01:38 PM   #31
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It's now being reported that his father gave him the gun. It is also being reported the police found a prescription drug on the Charlestown murderer.

Sounds like the parenting skills of Adam Lanza's mother.


why are these people all able to get guns so easily? and in the case of Adam Lanza, so many powerful semi-automatic guns?

it IS about guns.

it IS about race.

like, that's exactly what this is about. a likely mentally ill racist used a gun to murder 9 people.

RACE and GUNS.
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I'm so fucking angry today. Because of our insane gun culture, this racist scumbag was able to murder 9 innocent people. Because he's a lone white male, we're not allowed to call him a terrorist. Because he was a white male he was able to be taken into custody alive. This country is so fucked up.
Agreed. Horrible stuff.
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Old 06-18-2015, 01:41 PM   #33
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Why is a person's life taken by a gang member of less importance to the media and to the president? It's because they can't play their "race card" and push their agenda.

No, it's because it's a MASS shooting.

It's a senseless mass shooting where race was a factor. You turning a blind eye to that and rushing to throw the term "race card" makes you just as agenda driven as the ones you blame. What a shame... disgusting


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Old 06-18-2015, 01:42 PM   #34
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There's a point where a message has to be sent to these psychos. They become exactly what they want when they have these mass shootings. Their name becomes famous, they sit in an isolated area and then either rot in prison or die. That's simply not enough. Now, do we need to chop off all of his fingers and gouge out his eyes? No, probably not. But they allow these scumbags a quick and pain less death.
Will it stop people from doing these shootings and heinous crimes? No. But if these shootings were properly handled instead of a massive media coverage about their names and lives and if these murderers actually had to suffer for their actions, a lot of these nuts probably wouldn't be as common. This isn't a gun issue like many of the liberal nutjobs like to make it, because every time a gun is involved, all deaths need to be disregarded so we can focus on guns again. Because if someone is driven to commit mass murder, there is absolutely no way they can find access to a weapon if guns are illegal. (Sarcasm) It's a morality issue and won't be fixed, but treating these situations better instead of always blaming guns would be a step forward. But of course, no one can gain political leverage from that, so it won't happen.


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he could have stabbed 9 people to death with a kitchen knife just as easily. you're totally right.

coming from Texas, one of the capital punishment capitols of the world, you well know that it's your high rate of executions that keeps your crime rate so low. criminals in Texas always think twice about murder because they fear the death penalty. the thought of capital punishment has prevented so many murders, it's really great that you have it. especially when you look at the much higher murder rates in states like Connecticut, Vermont, Iowa, and North Dakota, which have outlawed the death penalty.
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Old 06-18-2015, 01:42 PM   #35
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No, it's because it's a MASS shooting.

It's a senseless mass shooting where race was a factor. You turning a blind eye to that and rushing to throw the term "race card" makes you just as agenda driven as the ones you blame. What a shame.


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saying someone is "playing the race card" is actually playing the race card.
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Racism isn't a mental illness. I think lumping people with mental illnesses in with people like this does an injustice to mental illness.

This is a racist who had easy access to guns and used them to murder people he hated. This needs to be politicized immediately or it will happen again. This needs to lead directly, right now, to a discussion about gun control.
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Racism isn't a mental illness. I think lumping people with mental illnesses in with people like this does an injustice to mental illness.

i think anyone who commits a mass shooting is almost by definition mentally ill.
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The problem is the NRA will stop any and all attempts at gun control. If the slaughter of 20 small children won't change anything, nothing will.
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President (not gonna bring us together) Obama wasted no time in pulling out his race card and pressing his anti-gun agenda.
Excuse me? How much more plainly racist does a violent act need to be before it's justified calling out racist acts for what they are? You don't wear the flag of apartheid-era South Africa and Rhodesia without having some pretty plainly obvious racist leanings. Not to mention the stars and bars on his front license plate. Not to mention him plainly telling a survivor that he was doing this because black people need to go.

It's not "pulling out the race card" if you accurately describe the motivations of the racist asshole who perpetrated this crime.
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Excuse me? How much more plainly racist does a violent act need to be before it's justified calling out racist acts for what they are? You don't wear the flag of apartheid-era South Africa and Rhodesia without having some pretty plainly obvious racist leanings. Not to mention the stars and bars on his front license plate. Not to mention him plainly telling a survivor that he was doing this because black people need to go.

It's not "pulling out the race card" if you accurately describe the motivations of the racist asshole who perpetrated this crime.
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I did not say Dylann Roof is not a racist. The facts are showing he is a racist.

I did say that Obama used this to again further divide Americans and push his agenda. I guess you do not agree with this, but I'm not alone in viewing his speech as divisive.

Obama says church shooting shows need for reckoning on guns - AOL.com


He also lied when he said that mass killings do not occur in other advanced countries.

They do. In Norway a murderer killed 70 children and adults a few year ago.

Senseless murders occur all over the world. They have in the past. They will in the future. There is evil in this world.

It is sad. It is tragic.

My hope is that we will try to discuss the reasons these events occur and how we can better prevent them. Hopefully we can stop the next one.
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I did say that Obama used this to again further divide Americans and push his agenda. I guess you do not agree with this, but I'm not alone in viewing his speech as divisive.

Obama says church shooting shows need for reckoning on guns - AOL.com

i think that calling this "divisive" is an attempt to distract from the real issues at play -- that's what's "divisive," calling any attempt to deal with tragedies such as this one "divisive." you're trying to make the issue about Obama and not about racism and guns.



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He also lied when he said that mass killings do not occur in other advanced countries.

They do. In Norway a murderer killed 70 children and adults a few year ago.

in no other country do they happen with as much frequency. which is exactly what he said:

so there's no "lie" here -- it's obvious to anyone that mass shootings happen in other places, hence the sentence that followed the first sentence.
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Not gonna blame Zoloft. But, I think Holmes, Lanza, and one of the Columbine shooters were all on it. Maybe affects younger folks differently.

Not ashamed to admit I take another anti-depressant. Works for me. If I skip a couple days my dreams take on a more aggressive-tone. Example I might get in a fist-fight in my dream. Then I know I probably missed taking my SSRI.

Brain chemistry can make people do crazy things. But on the other hand he has to be conscience that what he is doing is wrong.

Came out today that he had a lot of black friends on FB. But only posted a few photos and only created a profile in 2015. Psychologists are trying to analyze his FB behavior.

My question is if he is such a loner freak. How can he be smart enough to know about obscure apartheid era flags. Or did he have some kind of mentor?
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My question is if he is such a loner freak. How can he be smart enough to know about obscure apartheid era flags. Or did he have some kind of mentor?
Well, he probably has the internet.
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He fled to N C four hours away. Hard to make a credible case for diminished capacity Knowing this.
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My hope is that we will try to discuss the reasons these events occur and how we can better prevent them.
Is it? Then why are you ripping Obama for doing just that?
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