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Old 12-14-2012, 11:17 PM   #76
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He made a choice. Stop using mental illness as an excuse. Jesus Christ.
You really don't understand mental illness, if that's how you simplify it.
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Old 12-14-2012, 11:21 PM   #77
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You really don't understand mental illness, if that's how you simplify it.
Nor do you.
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Old 12-14-2012, 11:24 PM   #78
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Nor do you.
Right. My honours undergrad is in clinical psych.
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This is a very poorly written and timed joke or parody, right? Right?
It's got Steved's name on it, doesn't it?
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Old 12-14-2012, 11:25 PM   #80
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Right. My honours undergrad is in clinical psych.
So diagnose this guy.
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Old 12-14-2012, 11:25 PM   #81
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It's got Steved's name on it, doesn't it?
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Old 12-14-2012, 11:28 PM   #82
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So diagnose this guy.
I'm smart enough, and have been educated by those wise enough, to realize that I don't have the training to do so.
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I believe it needs to be easier to mandate some sort of treatment for those who are mentally ill. As it is, you can only hospitalize a person for 72 hours if they are proven to be a threat to themselves or others. And that is an emergent threat.
I published a paper on this very topic about 3 years ago. Agree with you.
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Old 12-14-2012, 11:30 PM   #84
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I believe she meant involuntary committal.
Again, what has led her to believe that the presence or absence of state-sanctioned involuntary committal would have been meaningful to this case, or of other shootings?

This is an honest question, I'm curious about practical solutions and this has come up before with Gabby Giffords without a compelling connection being drawn, so hopefully it can happen here. Did people suspect the shooter was mentally ill, but were unable to do anything?
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This is a very poorly written and timed joke or parody, right? Right?
I think so...I think it's a parody thing. I hope, anyway.

And really, to all those who are doing the "devil's advocate" thing, maybe give it a rest today and just be honest and genuine with your comments for a change? Not really in the mood to play silly games.
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It's got Steved's name on it, doesn't it?
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So diagnose this guy.
It's too early to talk about this without knowing 1) his medical history or 2) his motive.

People make choices because one option benefits them over the other. At present, we don't know what those options were or what he was thinking. He may not have been thinking. We may not be able to apply logic to his situation at all.

No amount of training can help you diagnose this guy.
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Old 12-14-2012, 11:37 PM   #88
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I'm smart enough, and have been educated by those wise enough, to realize that I don't have the training to do so.
I can't diagnose him, but I can judge a child killer.
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It's too early to talk about this without knowing 1) his medical history or 2) his motive.

People make choices because one option benefits them over the other. At present, we don't know what those options were or what he was thinking. He may not have been thinking. We may not be able to apply logic to his situation at all.

No amount of training can help you diagnose this guy.
Some people are just evil. He made a choice to turn a gun on a scared, cowering innocent child and pull the trigger. And do it again. And again. And again. And again. And again. And again. And again. And again. And again. And again. And again. And again. And again. And again. And again. And again. And again.
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I can't diagnose him, but I can judge a child killer.
Awesome. That doesn't solve the problem on any fundamental level beyond that one individual though, does it?
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