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Old 02-06-2013, 07:51 AM   #676
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I was most baffled by his comment "there's no registration, no permitting, no background checks"... fair enough if he personally wants to keep his guns, that's his prerogative, but he's happy for any American to just be able to walk into a gun shop, hand over some cash and walk out with a gun, no questions asked? What the fuck?
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Old 02-06-2013, 07:56 AM   #677
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Cobbo, how are we supposed to take you seriously if you don't slam your fist to the desk at the end of what you're saying and close your briefcase like a total badass?

(you know in his head, he was picturing a totally awesome explosion happening behind him as he walked away)
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Old 02-06-2013, 08:03 AM   #678
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I do worry for the States sometimes. I hope I don't sound too condescending but I feel like you just don't see as many backwards opinions here in Australia. Even the far right here think the NRA are fucking nutjobs.
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Old 02-06-2013, 09:19 AM   #679
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In my not so humble opinion about the only advantage we have over them is compulsory voting, and the present generation would give that away in a heartbeat if the offer were made.

There are ways of taming the extremes.

Well ok, it's not all about that, this country lacks the infusion of Puritanism that shaped the early American scene.
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Old 02-06-2013, 10:01 AM   #680
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I was most baffled by his comment "there's no registration, no permitting, no background checks"... fair enough if he personally wants to keep his guns, that's his prerogative, but he's happy for any American to just be able to walk into a gun shop, hand over some cash and walk out with a gun, no questions asked? What the fuck?

That's just fucking called Freedom. Something NON-AMERICANS can't understand.

Look it up.
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Old 02-06-2013, 10:34 AM   #681
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Freedom isn't free you know.....buck o'five I reckon it costs.....
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Old 02-07-2013, 02:58 AM   #682
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America... FUCK YEAH
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Old 02-07-2013, 02:39 PM   #683
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I do worry for the States sometimes.
It's okay. By the time we've all died violent deaths by gunfire, your whole country will have gone up in flames.

So ... another year or two, maybe?
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Old 02-07-2013, 05:19 PM   #684
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The problem with the gun control debate in this country is that, by all accounts, the vast majority of gun owners and NRA members support reasonable stances like yours (i.e. mandatory training, universal background checks, etc), but the leadership of the NRA simply refuse to acknowledge it and respond to any perceived threat to their stances with rhetoric so extreme (they're coming to take our guns!) it prevents any reasonable debate from taking place.
How true. Quinnipiac just published the results of polling they did on this issue (National (US) Poll * February 7, 2013 * Americans Back Women In Combat for the basics). Some results are surprising:
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The Quinnipac poll also finds that 92 percent of Americans, including 89 percent of Republicans, supports requiring a background check for all would be gun buyers. Fifty six percent support banning assault weapons and high capacity magazine clips.
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Also from the Quinnipiac poll, this is critical:

Who do you think better reflects your views on guns, President Obama or the National Rifle Association?

Obama: 43

NRA: 46

Okay, so nine in 10 Americans supports universal background checks, and solid majorities back the assault ban, both of which are opposed by the NRA and regularly characterized by the organization as gun-grabbing tyranny — yet people think the NRA better represents their views. There’s been a lot of chortling on the right about the NRA’s favorability ratings, but this poll makes it plain: People don’t have any idea what the NRA really stands for.
(those quotes are from The Morning Plum: GOP resolve on sequester begins to crack )

It looks to me that gun owners and gun lovers (and the U.S.A. as a whole) are better off without the NRA that with such an influential, extremist and out-of-touch organization.
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Old 02-07-2013, 07:08 PM   #685
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It looks to me that gun owners and gun lovers (and the U.S.A. as a whole) are better off without the NRA that with such an influential, extremist and out-of-touch organization.

The problem is that the NRA is widely considered to be just about the most powerful lobby in Washington. They may really only represent the gun industry, and not gun owners, but they are feared in Congress.
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And that poll shows just how gullable, ignorant and/or stupid a majority of Americans are when it comes to actually following the issues, and the statements an organization makes.
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Where the fuck is that guy's birth certificate anyway? The NRA has a birth certificate.
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... shows just how gullable, ignorant and/or stupid a majority of Americans are when it comes to actually following the issues, and the statements an organization makes.


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Kind of like WMDs and Al Qaeda in Iraq.


NRA doesn't want universal background checks because it means fewer gun sales
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