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Old 01-31-2013, 08:56 AM   #631
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Yes, people kill people. By using guns.
Indeed. I guess the other option would be to make people illegal and let guns roam freely. But I'm not sure how that would work.

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You apparently haven't done any research on gorilla warfare,
Does reading up on G.W. Bush' actions as Commander in Chief count?
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Old 01-31-2013, 09:19 AM   #632
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Old 01-31-2013, 10:45 AM   #633
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Do people even look in history books anymore ?!?! It's not an insane concept that governments turn bad and the people rebel for their freedom. The kids in newtone didn't die by my hands, they died by someone with a mental problem and stolen weapons. And I really don't give a shit about your rainbows, everyone holding hands , and the government is my lover fantasy world.
The kids don't matter Irvine here really do they? As long as eighties could have his weapons for when Obama and his minions to take over the country or even more likely when the zombie apocolypse comes.
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Old 01-31-2013, 10:48 AM   #634
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The kids don't matter Irvine here really do they? As long as eighties could have his weapons for when Obama and his minions to take over the country or even more likely when the zombie apocolypse comes.
Come on, now. You're painting this as far more extreme an idea than it really is. Although, I expect that's actually your goal. You argue against who MSNBC and Chris Matthews tell you the other side is, and when they don't fit this stereotype, you twist words and ideas until they do.
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Old 01-31-2013, 11:08 AM   #635
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Come on, now. You're painting this as far more extreme an idea than it really is. Although, I expect that's actually your goal. You argue against who MSNBC and Chris Matthews tell you the other side is, and when they don't fit this stereotype, you twist words and ideas until they do.
WRONG!!!!

I'm a NRA member and I own and keep weapons in both of my homes. They are handguns - just enough to protect myself and my property secure.

I don't watch PMSNBC and I don't certainly watch FOX News, as I've grown older I am getting more on the conservative side but hate the radicals on both sides. What I would like is to have a serious debate on how to keep our kids safe and feel safe going to school. I'm assuming you're prolly a lot younger than myself and am gonna come off as being old and antiquated but when I was a child this wasn't even in the realm of things happening. Our kids are our most important resources and unfortunately the new reality doesn't seem to fit.
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Old 01-31-2013, 11:15 AM   #636
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... Oh wait I didn't get my shots in at you - let me guess you live in your parents basement surrounded by all of your automatic weapons, which is somehow prolly a way to compensate for something maybe missing or shortcomings.. not sure. You listen to Rush, Hannity and O'rielly and while you arw a U2 fan, you have to somehow make that coelesce being such a huge fan of Ted Nugent
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Old 01-31-2013, 11:23 AM   #637
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WRONG!!!!

I'm a NRA member and I own and keep weapons in both of my homes. They are handguns - just enough to protect myself and my property secure.

I don't watch PMSNBC and I don't certainly watch FOX News, as I've grown older I am getting more on the conservative side but hate the radicals on both sides. What I would like is to have a serious debate on how to keep our kids safe and feel safe going to school. I'm assuming you're prolly a lot younger than myself and am gonna come off as being old and antiquated but when I was a child this wasn't even in the realm of things happening. Our kids are our most important resources and unfortunately the new reality doesn't seem to fit.
Perhaps I was wrong, although, when you take a post about defending yourself from the possibility of a tyrannical government one day, and extrapolate it to the poster not caring about children and believing that Obama will take over the country, or believing in a zombie apocalypse.... that's not the serious debate you claim to want. That's demagoguery

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... Oh wait I didn't get my shots in at you - let me guess you live in your parents basement surrounded by all of your automatic weapons, which is somehow prolly a way to compensate for something maybe missing or shortcomings.. not sure. You listen to Rush, Hannity and O'rielly and while you arw a U2 fan, you have to somehow make that coelesce being such a huge fan of Ted Nugent
Ah, yes, here's that serious debate you were wanting. Yep, you nailed me, man; good job
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believing in a zombie apocalypse
This should be included in the criteria for rejecting a firearms license.
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Old 01-31-2013, 11:33 AM   #639
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This should be included in the criteria for rejecting a firearms license.
LemonMelon is a zombie sympathizer. You heard it here first.
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Old 01-31-2013, 11:58 AM   #640
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Liberals resorting to name calling, and other immature tactics, how typical.
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Even if stockpiling assault rifles in the 21st century to protect against the rise of a tyrannical government was a valid argument, the 2nd Amendment calls for a "well regulated" militia.

It seems to me that most gun supporters are focusing primarily on the constitutionality of the "right to bear arms" instead of the "well regulated" part.

It is just too easy for people to obtain guns in the U.S. And while it's likely that tragedies will continue to occur, it doesn't mean we shouldn't implement some stricter rules to make guns harder to get.
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Old 01-31-2013, 12:05 PM   #642
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Even if stockpiling assault rifles in the 21st century to protect against the rise of a tyrannical government was a valid argument, the 2nd Amendment calls for a "well regulated" militia.

It seems to me that most gun supporters are focusing primarily on the constitutionality of the "right to bear arms" instead of the "well regulated" part.

It is just too easy for people to obtain guns in the U.S. And while it's likely that tragedies will continue to occur, it doesn't mean we shouldn't implement some stricter rules to make guns harder to get.
Finally some sort of agreement.
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Old 01-31-2013, 12:22 PM   #643
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Even if stockpiling assault rifles in the 21st century to protect against the rise of a tyrannical government was a valid argument, the 2nd Amendment calls for a "well regulated" militia.

It seems to me that most gun supporters are focusing primarily on the constitutionality of the "right to bear arms" instead of the "well regulated" part.

It is just too easy for people to obtain guns in the U.S. And while it's likely that tragedies will continue to occur, it doesn't mean we shouldn't implement some stricter rules to make guns harder to get.
Most reasoned conservatives would be completely fine with stricter rules on getting guns. I know I would be. As I said a few times in this debate, extensive background checks on those purchasing fire arms is something I would certainly support.

But it seems like that's not enough for most on the left, or for most people here.
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Old 01-31-2013, 12:30 PM   #644
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Liberals resorting to name calling, and other immature tactics, how typical.
People on both sides are capable of that.
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Old 01-31-2013, 01:36 PM   #645
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Alright, folks. Let's everyone take a deep breath, check that urge to insult the opposing side, and try and get back to a level-headed, civil discussion here.
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