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Old 01-15-2013, 01:52 PM   #496
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It's fun to be able to look at a song couplet like that, without knowing the song really and know which way they pronounced "Iraq" based on the rhyme scheme.
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Old 01-15-2013, 03:10 PM   #497
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It's fun to be able to look at a song couplet like that, without knowing the song really and know which way they pronounced "Iraq" based on the rhyme scheme.
Spearhead - Crime to be broke in america - YouTube

It seems I was a little off paraphrasing the lyrics, though not that much.
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Old 01-15-2013, 03:26 PM   #498
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I saw him on tv. To have to deal with this on top of the kids that day and all of that..I feel sorry for him. Yes he could have just not spoken to the media, but he doesn't deserve that. The families don't, above all else. To have this crap added to their unbearable pain.

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A man who found six children in his driveway in Newtown, Conn., after their teacher had been shot and killed in last month's school massacre has become the target of conspiracy theorists who believe the shootings were staged.

“I don’t know what to do,” Gene Rosen told Salon.com. “I’m getting hang-up calls, I’m getting some calls, I’m getting emails with, not direct threats, but accusations that I’m lying, that I’m a crisis actor, ‘How much am I being paid?'”

Rosen, a 69-year-old retired psychologist who lives near Sandy Hook Elementary School where the shootings took place, says his inbox is filled with emails like this one:

How are all those little students doing? You know, the ones that showed up at your house after the ‘shooting’. What is the going rate for getting involved in a gov’t sponsored hoax anyway?

“The quantity of the material is overwhelming,” Rosen said, adding that he's sought the advice of a retired state police officer and plans to alert the FBI.

On the morning of Dec. 14, Rosen had just finished feeding his cats when he saw six small children "sitting in a neat semicircle" at the end of his driveway. According to the Associated Press:

A school bus driver was standing over them, telling them things would be all right. It was about 9:30 a.m., and the children, he discovered, had just run from the school to escape a gunman.

"We can't go back to school," one little boy told Rosen. "Our teacher is dead."

Adam Lanza, the 20-year-old gunman, had shot his way into the school and opened fire, killing 20 children and six adults.

Rosen took the four girls and two boys—students of slain teacher Victoria Soto—into his home, gave them toys and comforted them while he tried to reach their parents. He spent the days following the massacre telling his story to the swarming media that invaded the small Connecticut town in the wake of the shootings.

“I wanted to speak about the bravery of the children,” Rosen told Salon. “I guess I kind of opened myself up to this.”

A quick Web search for Rosen's name reveals some of what he's opened himself up to: Appearing online are photos of his home, his address and phone number, several fake YouTube accounts and plenty of conspiracy theories.

One post, entitled "Grieving Town Grandfather, or Bad 'Crisis Actor,'" reads in part:

Gene's oft repeated, and changing, story about that day, focuses totally on the kids and the sound of gunshots. Even though his eyes and ears should've taken in the whole scene, his story focuses completely on the kids and the guns.

Why? Well, if this was a false flag event designed to move political opinion on gun control, here in America, then you would get a lot more bang for your buck by talking about the innocent little children. That's what tugs on America's heart strings the most ... especially around Christmas time.
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Old 01-15-2013, 08:01 PM   #499
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Anyone who thinks this shooting was some sort of conspiracy is a fucking moron. End of story.

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They blame it on a song when someone kills a cop
I wonder what music they listened to when they bombed Iraq
Regardless of how exact you were with the lyrics, this general sentiment is still spot on . A video game, or a song, or a TV show, did not kill the kids at Sandy Hook. A gun did. Time to start putting the blame where it actually belongs, people.

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"We haven't saved any lives tonight, except one: the political life of a governor who wants to be president," said Ball who represents part of the Hudson Valley. "We have taken an entire category of firearms that are currently legal that are in the homes of law-abiding, tax paying citizens. ... We are now turning those law-abiding citizens into criminals."


I just saw this online a few moments ago:

Gunman wounds man, himself at St. Louis school - Yahoo! News

Gee, look. Another school incident. You will pardon me, then, if I'm completely and totally done with feeling any sympathy for the pro-gun sentiment in this country. Cuomo's law is a good start. Now we just need to do more nationwide with this issue.
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Old 01-16-2013, 12:17 PM   #500
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Reading the reaction and tweets from Obama's executive orders on gun violence has been both hilarious and terrifying.
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Old 01-16-2013, 06:40 PM   #501
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Well, I finally had the Sandy Hook was faked video show up on my news feed. I wish I hadn't watched any of it. It definitely leaves you with a "...well...I mean...what if" feeling.

Not saying I'm buying it, just saying I wish I hadn't watched it.
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Old 01-16-2013, 07:02 PM   #502
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I think one reason why the conspiracies are going around is because when the news first broke, there were so many different reports going around. First Adam Lanza killed his father in New Jersey and then went to Connecticut to shoot up the school. Then there were two gunman and one was in custody. It goes on and on. I think that is why those who would believe the Sandy Hook conspiracies, are doing so.
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Old 01-16-2013, 07:05 PM   #503
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Yeah, all I'm seeing is inconsistencies being pointed out among the multitude of stories that surfaced that day. Not exactly hard evidence for mass homicide being a hoax, of which there is none.
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sorry if this has been posted already, but how appalling.
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Old 01-16-2013, 09:42 PM   #505
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Not only is it appalling, but it's downright a lie. Part of Obama's speech today called for more resource guards in schools.

But all the rightwing mouth pieces(who all claimed to have listened to the speech and read the orders) are jumping all over this "hypocrisy" bandwagon.

Low informational voters...
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I think one reason why the conspiracies are going around is because when the news first broke, there were so many different reports going around. First Adam Lanza killed his father in New Jersey and then went to Connecticut to shoot up the school. Then there were two gunman and one was in custody. It goes on and on. I think that is why those who would believe the Sandy Hook conspiracies, are doing so.
Yep, the instant access to information, and the up to date "reporting" create these type of claims for the wackos.

Supposedly there were memorial FB pages for some of the victims put up a few days before the shooting? Well, jeez, that seems like a pretty big mistake to make if one is trying to pull such an elaborate hoax.

How some of the victims parents are seen laughing before news conference, again, does that automatically lead towards a hoax?? That they're actors? Do we know the context of the laughing? Who are we to say how someone should react after such a thing?? I'm sure most of us wouldn't be caught laughing, but you just don't know.

Then there's the "lack" of videos to the public. Does every school have video cameras?? Why would that be released to the public? That seems like something of a legal issue, and would be brought up in court at a later date.

There were cars parked everywhere, not enough police or ambulances...again, if you were a parent of a child at that school, would you decide to park a block away or just drive up to the school and get your kid??

Not releasing the bodies to the parents right away. Again, context. It's a crime scene, not something anyone can just walk right up into and take a look around, even if your child is a victim. Plus, there is usually a person in the middle, to try and keep everyone calm, and rational.

It just makes me sick all of this stuff. I swear there is a small % of people in this country that LOVES for this stuff to happen. They complain about some big bad New World Order that's controlling everything, thinking they're some sort of rebel alliance to fight against it....yet they are nothing more than slaves to misery and destruction, cause they can't function unless something bad happens.

Fuck them
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I'm sorry but I don't buy any conspiracy theory out there. Period.

People who do have watched too many movies and paid too little attention to the way things actually happen in the real world.
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I think I mentioned before that a close friend lost a family member. I wonder if the night I spent with other friends consoling him in his apartment for six hours was an acting job?

Most of the "facts" brought up by that conspiracy video have been proven wrong by sites like Snopes. It's just propaganda.
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I'm sorry but I don't buy any conspiracy theory out there. Period.

People who do have watched too many movies and paid too little attention to the way things actually happen in the real world.
Precisely.

And yeah, that ad is all sorts of appalling and stupid. But sadly, not surprising.
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Not only is it appalling, but it's downright a lie. Part of Obama's speech today called for more resource guards in schools.

But all the rightwing mouth pieces(who all claimed to have listened to the speech and read the orders) are jumping all over this "hypocrisy" bandwagon.

Low informational voters...

I'm not jumping.

I agree with the President's call for more resource officers.

In my school where I teach, we have a police officer on campus all day.

She has a gun. That does not scare me.


I also agree with other states and school districts who agree in allowing
teachers and other staff members to carry concealed weapons.
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