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Old 12-14-2012, 04:54 PM   #31
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Ryan Lanza's ID was found on Adam's person, which is why police initially identified him as such.
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Old 12-14-2012, 04:56 PM   #32
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Wow. It was very irresponsible of media to report that name if that's the case. I don't think these names should be reported at all, they should not be made into celebrities.
If police were incorrect in identifying the shooter and fed that information to the media, I hardly see how that's the media's fault.
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Old 12-14-2012, 04:57 PM   #33
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But wasn't the real Ryan Lanza also with him? Isn't he in custody and being questioned by police?
Don't think he was with him at all. Questioning does not need custody. They just want any info he has.
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in this rush to be first, there is going to be a lot of erroneous reporting
we could wait 24 - 48 hours to at least to get some credible information

or we good just all go Benghazi on this.
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Yes. The media is bad enough already; let's not add to the chaos by re-reporting everything here as soon as it hits one media outlet or another.
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If police were incorrect in identifying the shooter and fed that information to the media, I hardly see how that's the media's fault.

I knew nothing about the ID part. I'm not monitoring it all day online, just found out about it a while ago. It is the media's fault if the police never gave them the name. The governor of CT wouldn't, so I don't think the police would. Police on ABC right now still not giving the name. So no need really to jump on that.
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Yes. The media is bad enough already; let's not add to the chaos by re-reporting everything here as soon as it hits one media outlet or another.

the images are about the only thing we have now that are true
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(never mind. deep gonna deep. I don't have to engage with him.)
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one thing for sure
these students, parents and responders are going to need a lot of help for a long time.
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Why are some parents allowing their kids who were there to be interviewed by the media? Right outside the school, after it happened. Not my place to judge but I just don't get it.

Cringeworthy, I had to change the channel.
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Holy fucking shit, people. Not even sure what to say after waking up to this sort of news.

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The thing about tightening gun control is that there's got to be a way to prevent illegal sales of gun. It is possible to go online and get a gun, just like buying drugs off the internet. I wouldn't be surprise if that is how this psycho got his firearms.
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Actually, I would be surprised if those guns and ammo weren't legally bought. In the majority of these types of massacres, the weaponry has been obtained legally.
What trojanchick said. We've had tight gun control laws in Australia ever since the Port Arthur massacre of 1996 (which could be seen as the culmination of violent gun crime/massacres that had been building since the eighties). No comparable massacres have occurred since then, whether with legally or illegally purchased guns. Same goes for New Zealand after gun laws were strengthened in response to the Aramoana massacre of 1990. Without doing any research I can only speak from my knowledge of those two countries, but it's telling and I would expect to find similar outcomes in other Western countries.

Gun control works. The gun lobby in the US needs to wake up to this fact. Our tighter gun laws don't stop people who are legitimate hunters or target shooters or whatever from pursuing their hobby, but we sure as hell don't have heaps of nutters - and rest assurred we aren't short on nutters - running around causing death and mayhem with weaponry only the military should ever have a just reason to possess.
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Why are some parents allowing their kids who were there to be interviewed by the media? Right outside the school, after it happened. Not my place to judge but I just don't get it.
Maybe the parents are in shock and still trying to get a handle on the chaos.

I have no problem aiming all my disdain for the media.
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When comparing the U.S. to other Western democracies, how many of these other countries have the right to bear arms enshrined in their Constitution?

I think that adds a different dynamic to this discussion.
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FUCK.

Fucking hell goddamnit.

I am so pissed off right now. We NEED to do something about this. NOW. I'm sick and tired of this shit.

Obama was near tears during his conference. My thoughts exactly.
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When comparing the U.S. to other Western democracies, how many of these other countries have the right to bear arms enshrined in their Constitution?

I think that adds a different dynamic to this discussion.
Yes, it does.

But let's not forget that the current permissive nature to bear arms comes from a particularly tortured interpretation of the 2nd amendment.
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