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Old 12-19-2012, 04:05 PM   #346
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Oh I know they should still be able to get information. I was just wondering about his mental state, as far as planning and he still thought to do that.

I just wonder about that, the smashing and anything else he did to cover his tracks. They say he killed himself just as the first responders arrived, so I wonder if he had planned to do that all along or not. He had so much ammunition on him that the carnage could have been far worse.
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Old 12-19-2012, 04:05 PM   #347
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Who said that? How sick. And talk about blaming the victims.
The woman who wrote the article that BoMac posted.
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Old 12-19-2012, 04:08 PM   #348
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The woman who wrote the article that BoMac posted.
OK, I didn't have time to look at the article. Don't want to either, can't deal with it.

I thought you were talking about some talking tv head, something like that.
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Old 12-19-2012, 04:31 PM   #349
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Old 12-19-2012, 04:45 PM   #350
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Just makes me want to cry-that something like that even exists, and that people are feeling the need to buy it. Not faulting them at all for that either. It won't necessarily work, but it gives people the feeling that they're doing something. Because parents must feel so powerless right now.

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Old 12-19-2012, 05:04 PM   #351
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Let's join in in a rousing chorus of my favorite response. All together, now ....

CHRIST, WHAT AN ASSHOLE.
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Old 12-19-2012, 05:32 PM   #352
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I also read on my phone today that a guy with a gun was supposedly seen outside a school in Arizona. Don't know if that turned out to be a false alarm or not.

SALT LAKE CITY (Reuters) - An 11-year-old Utah boy who said he brought a gun to school to protect himself from a Newtown-style attack, then brandished the pistol at three classmates during recess, has been detained on assault and weapons charges, a school spokesman said on Tuesday.

The boy, a Utah sixth-grader, took the unloaded .22-caliber handgun to his school south of Salt Lake City in his backpack on Monday, a spokesman for the Granite School District said.

Some ammunition was also found in the backpack, but it did not appear to go with the gun, said the spokesman, Ben Horsley.

No one was injured in the incident, which occurred as jittery parents, teachers and students around the country faced their first day back at school since 20 children and six adult staffers at the Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut, were shot to death by a lone gunman last Friday.

The 11-year-old student at Utah's West Kearns Elementary, who was not publicly identified, has insisted he brought the gun to school to "protect himself and his friends from a Connecticut-style incident," Horsley said.

However, the boy is accused of waving the gun at three classmates on a soccer field during recess. Later on Monday, one of those students and a second classmate alerted their teacher, who "immediately took the student into custody and took him down to the principal's office," Horsley said.

After being briefly questioned, the boy admitted bringing the gun to school, and the weapon was recovered minutes later.

Some parents questioned the decision not to initiate a security "lockdown," but school administrators reasoned that it made no sense to risk alarming students when the threat was so quickly averted, Horsley said.

The boy was booked into a local juvenile detention center on Monday night on one count of possession of a deadly weapon on school property and three counts of aggravated assault. He was also suspended from school indefinitely.

Horsley described the boy's parents as shocked by the incident and cooperating with investigators, who found the gun belonged to a relative who has been living temporarily with the boy's family.

He said the community was "rightfully" shaken by the incident. "Because of the tragic occurrence in Connecticut, people's emotions with respect to children's safety is right at the surface, and we're just as concerned as the parents."

Because the incident unfolded less than an hour before classes were dismissed, parents could not be notified until well after the school day had ended, and only then by telephone, he said.
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Old 12-19-2012, 05:32 PM   #353
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Let's join in in a rousing chorus of my favorite response. All together, now ....

CHRIST, WHAT AN ASSHOLE.



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But in general, a feminized setting is a setting in which helpless passivity is the norm. Male aggression can be a good thing, as in protecting the weak — but it has been forced out of the culture of elementary schools and the education schools that train their personnel. Think of what Sandy Hook might have been like if a couple of male teachers who had played high-school football, or even some of the huskier 12-year-old boys, had converged on Lanza.

it boggles the mind.

and all due respect to the NRO commenters -- they tear this crazy woman to shreds.



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Ms Allen is just a Republican woman helping us to understand why Republican men believe women are stupid.
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"why is only that a male janitor can throw it?" Because girls throw like....girls!!!
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I believe you meant to say "deluded" rather than "diluted". But either way, the gun is the great equalizer, no?
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Gosh, If only I could come up with some aggression to say what I'm feeling right now.

Damn my feminist helpless passivity!
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Old 12-19-2012, 05:40 PM   #355
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Gosh, If only I could come up with some aggression to say what I'm feeling right now.

Damn my feminist helpless passivity!


don't dilute yourself to think you're feminine brain capable of such aggression. leave that to the husky 12 year old boys or bucket tossing janitors.
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Old 12-19-2012, 05:42 PM   #356
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For what it's worth husky 12 year old boys is a fairly weird phrase.
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says who?





if Charlotte Allen wants to speak in praise of them, that is her business
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Here's a look at the conspiracy theories - yep, they've happened. Amazing what some people believe:

10 Mind-Blowingly Disturbing And Ridiculous Conspiracy Theories Surrounding The Sandy Hook Shooting


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If only...if only a strong, burly man had been around to protect the weak, defenseless women and children, none of this would have happened.

Newtown Answers - NRO Symposium - National Review Online
Wow. That is one shitty, poorly explained article right there. But given the general leanings of the magazine, I can't say that this attitude isn't all that surprising.

What the hell is so wrong with admitting that our country's obsession with and easy access to guns MIGHT be at least partly to blame for these tragedies? I do not get why people are digging in their heels and absolutely refusing to concede on this issue. Twenty kids dying isn't enough for you people to go, "Gee, maybe we should be more wary about who can have a gun"?!?!

(On that note, let's just take stock here for a moment: Janet Jackson showed her nipple at the halftime Superbowl show for, like, two seconds eight years ago, and the country freaked out because that image might somehow harm our kids *Cue all sorts of hand-wringing*. The FCC spent tons of time analyzing the crap out of this and whether or not CBS should be fined for what they showed on TV.

But twenty kids die at the hands of a gunman and, "Don't take away our guns! That's not the reason these kids died!" Okay.)
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Old 12-19-2012, 08:03 PM   #359
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If only...if only a strong, burly man had been around to protect the weak, defenseless women and children, none of this would have happened.

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We will never enact meaningful legislation in this country. Not with all this bullshit flying around. It's sickening
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Gosh, If only I could come up with some aggression to say what I'm feeling right now.

Damn my feminist helpless passivity!
Sounds like you need a MAN to express how you feel.
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