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Old 12-17-2012, 03:48 PM   #271
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Senator Mark Warner has changed his view of gun control in light of Friday's events. He's calling for stricter gun regulations, but still preserving the Second Amendment.

It's a start.
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Of course, Ohio Governor Kasich said today he will sign a new gun law allowing guns into statehouse parking garages & Riffe Center.

So there's that.
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i never openly sobbed at any point after 9-11 the way i did this morning when i listened to Mika Brzezinski list the names of the 20 children and the things they liked (baseball, jumping on the trampoline, a new pink dress bought for the holidays). and i knew people who died in 9-11, as well as people who literally ran out of the towers as bodies fell like sacks of potatoes all around them.
I got a little emotional when Anderson Cooper did the same thing last night. Even he almost broke down live on-air.

The thing is, the people who died on 9/11 were adults who lived their lives. Most of the Sandy Hook victims were children who have only begun theirs. That's the devastating part.
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i wonder what could have been going through those children's minds as something that could never have known or understood was happening to them, and how we, as adults, as a society, utterly failed them -- children rely on adults absolutely to keep them safe and protected, and they were murdered. for me, it's less about a loss of innocence than an utter betrayal of trust that they aren't even aware of.

i don't even know if that makes sense.
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Given how quickly that gun discharges bullets, I imagine a lot of them didn't have any time to really think about things before they died.

You have to really feel for their siblings, especially ones that were in the same school. The one boy who was buried today had a twin sister in an adjacent classroom and she lived. I can't even imagine how difficult her life will be going forward.
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Old 12-17-2012, 04:46 PM   #276
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i wonder what could have been going through those children's minds as something that could never have known or understood was happening to them, and how we, as adults, as a society, utterly failed them -- children rely on adults absolutely to keep them safe and protected, and they were murdered. for me, it's less about a loss of innocence than an utter betrayal of trust that they aren't even aware of.

i don't even know if that makes sense.
It makes sense. What was going through their minds, it's just so painful to even have that thought.

Seeing their pictures-the little girl with the red hair, the little boy with the temporary New York Giants tattoo on his face. He was buried today. It's just overwhelming for me. But I want to look at their pictures and remember their faces.
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i wonder what could have been going through those children's minds as something that could never have known or understood was happening to them, and how we, as adults, as a society, utterly failed them -- children rely on adults absolutely to keep them safe and protected, and they were murdered. for me, it's less about a loss of innocence than an utter betrayal of trust that they aren't even aware of.

i don't even know if that makes sense.
I think it does. I'm thinking the same thing. Do kids that young know what it means to have a gun pointed at them? I mean, I'm sure they do but can they comprehend what was really happening around and to them? It also bothers me that they suffered. Its just utter senselessness.
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the kids knew, their old enough. if you think about it, it is horrific

most likely he shot the adults first. because they would have moved to stop him

next he shot each child in an order, some were shot up to 11 times, all were shot at least three times.
the suffering, I believe was short-lived
very efficient killing machine, extremely horrific for the children.
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Given how quickly that gun discharges bullets, I imagine a lot of them didn't have any time to really think about things before they died.

You have to really feel for their siblings, especially ones that were in the same school. The one boy who was buried today had a twin sister in an adjacent classroom and she lived. I can't even imagine how difficult her life will be going forward.
There was one girl who survived the shooting. She played dead and when it was safe to leave, she found her father and said "all my friends are dead".

I can't imagine the trauma and guilt she'll have as she grows older.
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Makes perfect sense. If there ever was a crime that could have no defense, it would be that against a child.

Your role, our role as parent or adult (as i don't have kids and never will) in a society is to make sure those who cannot take care of themselves are taken care of. Obviously in the case of the parent, their child.

We can now say we live in a society where we can't even promise the child going to elementary school that they will be safe or fine.

Something has degraded so bad in this country that we can't trust to leave our kids alone anywhere.

I realize tragedies will happen, and there's no way to promise everything will be alright every single day. But I'm sorry, I never worried about being lined up and executed when I was in school. I was afraid of falling down and everyone laughing at me, or some other ridiculous or absurd incident where my ego would take a hit.

Now, parents wonder if sending their kid to school today is the last time they'll ever see them. To sit here and say this is the price we pay for freedom is immoral and selfish. Because it's about YOUR freedom and the assumption that nothing bad will happen to you, it'll always be someone else.

To do nothing will be a complete and utter failure of our country, and our morals. How we can say the USA is the shining light of the world in regards to standard of living if we continue down this path.

I hope Obama goes for it all. I don't want him to be a divider of the country, but I don't want him to back down either.
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There was one girl who survived the shooting. She played dead and when it was safe to leave, she found her father and said "all my friends are dead".

I can't imagine the trauma and guilt she'll have as she grows older.
I wonder if this is correct, It may have been reported

if she was in 'the room' and he shot each child multiple times, and I have seen that stated enough times that I believe it is correct, this story does not add up.
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i'm sure you'll soon be able to pour over all the grisly details you wish.

i'm also sure that kids are safest at school. the biggest threat to children are accidents that happen at home or in a car, and most violence suffered by children is at the hands of a male relative.

i'm more convinced than ever, now, that it really is the guns that are the problem. guns that enable and facilitate a mass execution like this was. it's incredibly rare, but not so rare (7 this year alone). i don't see what we lose by restricting access to assault weapons, especially since i still have to take off my goddamn shoes every time i board an airplane.
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Monday marks the first two burials of the 20 young children massacred at Sandy Hook Elementary School last week.

Jack Pinto (on the left), 6, is remembered as a huge football fan who loved the New York Giants.

Noah Pozner (on the right), also 6, loved reading and figuring out how things worked mechanically, his uncle, Alexis Haller, told the Associated Press. Haller said the boy was "smart as a whip." Pozner's twin sister, Arielle, survived the shooting. He had called Arielle his "best friend."





The shoe of New York Giants wide receiver Victor Cruz bears the words "R.I.P. Jack Pinto," in Atlanta, Georgia, December 16, 2012.


The life of six-year-old Jack Pinto may have been tragically cut short in Friday’s mass shooting at Sandy Hook elementary school, but his memory went speeding through the Georgia Dome yesterday on the hands and feet of New York Giants wide receiver Victor Cruz. In the Giants’ game against the Atlanta Falcons, Cruz put Jack Pinto’s name on his cleats and gloves: “Jack Pinto ‘My Hero’,” one read. “R.I.P. Jack Pinto,” noted the other.

It was a humbling tribute to the slain first-grader whose favorite football player was Cruz, a 26-year-old wideout from the University of Massachusetts. Cruz, who has an 11-month old daughter, learned in the aftermath of the shooting that Jack had idolized him and called up the family to ask if he could help them in any way. “I was in the hotel [in Atlanta] and as I was talking to them I was fighting back tears. You could hear everybody in the background crying as well. It was tough to listen to,” Cruz said, according to the New York Daily News.
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Daniel Barden
Daniel Barden, 7, was another of the victims. His father Mark is a musician, and he and his family wrote the following words in memorial of their son: "Everyone who has ever met Daniel remembers and loves him. Words really cannot express what a special boy Daniel was. Such a light. Always smiling, unfailingly polite, incredibly affectionate, fair and so thoughtful towards others, imaginative in play, both intelligent and articulate in conversation: in all, a constant source of laughter and joy. Daniel was fearless in his pursuit of happiness and life. He earned his ripped jeans and missing two front teeth. Despite that, he was, as his mother said, 'Just So Good.' He embodied everything that is wholesome and innocent in the world. Our hearts break over losing him and for the many other families suffering loss.




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Ana Marquez-Greene
Ana Marquez-Greene was one of the young victims shot by Adam Lanza after he opened fire at Sandy Hook Elementary School. The 6-year-old girl and her family had moved from Canada to the United States just two months before, drawn to the friendly community by the quiet streets and nearby jobs, relatives said.



Chase Kowalski
Chase Kowalski, a 7-year-old student in Newtown, Conn., was one of 20 children to lose their lives after gunman Adam Lanza entered Sandy Hook Elementary School Friday morning, armed with deadly weapons. Kowalski, who loved sports, left behind two older sisters. "He was an amazing little boy," said one neighbor. "He was biking in his yard all the time . . . he loved to run and bike. He was a beautiful little boy.




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Emilie Parker
Student Emilie Parker's life was tragically cut short during the devastating Sandy Hook massacre, which claimed the lives of 28 individuals. The father of the 6-year-old recalled his "bright, creative, very loving" daughter at a news conference where he sent condolences to the family of the killer. "I can't imagine how hard this must be for them," said Robbie Parker. "I'm not mad."



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