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Old 12-15-2012, 02:12 AM   #136
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... and I say that with all kindness, I swear.
Meh. Anyone who hurts a child should be put to death. In his case, burn the body.
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Old 12-15-2012, 03:35 AM   #137
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Sandy Hook mass murderer Adam Lanza, 20, 'deeply disturbed kid' - NY Daily News

So let me get this straight. His mom was aware that he was mentally ill but couldn't be fucked to lock up her glock? Are you kidding me? Buy a gun cabinet and a key ring.
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Old 12-15-2012, 04:05 AM   #138
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I just don't get people's cavalier attitude about guns. These aren't toys. They kill people. We secure the hell out of practically everything else in our lives, why are we so loose with securing our guns? You can still be a "2nd Amendment supporter" (...) while keeping your gun safely locked up.
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Old 12-15-2012, 04:18 AM   #139
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That's one of our laws if I'm not mistaken - by law you have to keep all guns locked in a cabinet which has to be bolted to the floor and a wall I think. Not sure that applies to handguns though.
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Old 12-15-2012, 04:28 AM   #140
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Old 12-15-2012, 04:29 AM   #141
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Old 12-15-2012, 07:06 AM   #142
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How many more, America?
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Old 12-15-2012, 10:07 AM   #144
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Sandy Hook mass murderer Adam Lanza, 20, 'deeply disturbed kid' - NY Daily News

So let me get this straight. His mom was aware that he was mentally ill but couldn't be fucked to lock up her glock? Are you kidding me? Buy a gun cabinet and a key ring.
I guess some parents can be in denial that their kids can be so ill.

The thing that I'm concerned about while reading this article is that people are going to start to think anyone who is quiet and keeps to themselves is a definite psycho. That really is unfair because some people are quiet by nature; not everyone is an extrovert. And if we're saying we should all look for the warning signs in people, we shouldn't stigmatize quiet people.
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Old 12-15-2012, 10:22 AM   #145
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I really don't mean to trivialize mental illness, which, as many of you have pointed out, is a serious, debilitating problem and one of the many issues in need of attention here. My concern, though, is that every time there is a mass shooting like this, the attention quickly shifts away from the guns and to something else that is often made to suggest that guns are not the core problem. For me, guns are absolutely the fundamental culprit here. I think as a nation we need to stop deflecting blame from the deepening, obsessive gun culture in this country. No matter how disturbed this individual may have been, the death toll simply would not have reached the level it did without simple and unimpeded access to guns. The whole "determined people will commit a crime one way or another" argument simply won't fly anymore.
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Old 12-15-2012, 11:35 AM   #146
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I think it's human nature to wonder "why." What drives someone to do something like this? Yes, guns made it easier for him to do it and take out a lot of people with him. But guns didn't make him do it.

And I'm not saying our country doesn't have a giant issue with guns. It pisses me off to no end that you can't even bring up gun control without it being "political" instead of "common fucking sense."

And it pisses me off even more that we live in a country where gun control is a right and health care is a privilege. Thanks to the last handful of years, you can't even discuss health care without it being "political" instead of "common fucking sense."

I think the conversations come out of a place of frustration, because the talk first of course (as it should) turn toward guns. But people just want to know "why." Some people ask why out of despair, because they just don't understand. Others want to know why so we can see what can be done to prevent it in the future (including aspects of gun control).

But yeah. We have a problem with guns.
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This is mental illness in a country where it's easier to access firearms than it is to get health care
I think that is a very important point. Disclaimer-I know NOTHING about exactly what happened in this situation, but as a general point and seeing the neighborhood they lived in and the house they lived in..I can speculate that it was a fairly wealthy family. So in general they have better access to health care, as far as being able to afford it. I grew up in a marginally well off town and live in one (nothing like this town seems to be, not on that level). And I can say for sure that the old adage still applies. That in general people in those places are far more concerned with what the neighbors think, they will think I'm a failure as a parent, etc. The list goes on and on. It's keep up appearances at all costs sometimes, tragically. Does that excuse it at all? Absolutely not. I have seen it on a personal level. When you combine that with the still existing stigma about mental illness, it equals a recipe for disaster. If your kid had a physical ailment you would have no reason to not get them treatment (unless you can't pay and even then you can try to find an alternative way) and no reason for embarrassment. Mental illness should be thought of in the same way, but it isn't. Again, I don't know what that mother did or did not do and I wouldn't judge her unless I did. These are just general thoughts. He also could have been getting treatment and this still happened. Treatment is no guarantee. Who knows if he was on any medications, any of that.

Who knows if she had these guns for protection from her own son. In that case why so many? I have no idea. Maybe she did keep them locked up and he got the key somehow.

The whole thing is just so painful, not ashamed to admit that I had a cry about it myself.
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In a South Carolina newspaper, here is everything that's wrong with America in a two-page spread:

http://twitter.com/ChrisJRailey/stat...947392/photo/1
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In a South Carolina newspaper, here is everything that's wrong with America in a two-page spread:

Twitter / ChrisJRailey: Paper in SC runs gun ad next ...
Wow, more insanity! It's saying... " Holy shit...HURRY up folks, get your guns before the big bad government takes them away." Did you see the gun sales chart in the last few years and how it's sky rocketed? Nothing like FEAR to make people buy more killing machines. And the cycle continues. Fear breads more fear, violence more violence. You don't need an AK 47 to kill a deer.
This country is whacked. Cori is right... common sense becomes political and sanity is chastised as un-American. Now that IS SICK. I am so tired of this.... Bob Costas is my hero, he's got more balls than any politician for saying what he did. And today IS the day to talk about gun control. Oh but wait...there's that common sense thing again, you know back ground checks and stricter waiting periods. My bad, how dare we turn this in to a political issue, she said with sarcasm.
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I recently heard this stat from what I believe to be a reliable source

number of Starbucks in the USA and the entire world is less than number of gun stores in the USA.
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