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Old 08-10-2011, 12:38 PM   #226
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What does that mean?
figure it out why don't you luv, but mind you don't get your facts wrong while you're at it
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Old 08-10-2011, 12:39 PM   #227
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Well you're questioning my use of the English language. Don't shoot yourself in the foot.
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Old 08-10-2011, 12:40 PM   #228
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Well you're questioning my use of the English language. Don't shoot yourself in the foot.
there is a thing called taking the piss you know

man, you can't even read between the lines
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Old 08-10-2011, 12:42 PM   #229
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there is a thing called taking the piss you know

man, you can't even read between the lines
Man you can't even start your sentences with capital letters. Basic year 2 stuff.
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This squabbling about gun crimes statistics and whose grammar is worse is becoming really distracting and preventing any kind of discussion about the actual riots. Let it go.
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Old 08-10-2011, 12:45 PM   #231
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Man you can't even start your sentences with capital letters. Basic year 2 stuff.
lol

oh god year 2 wow i must've missed that - shame they didn't teach me that at postgrad level eh
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Old 08-10-2011, 12:46 PM   #232
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This squabbling about gun crimes statistics and whose grammar is worse is becoming really distracting and preventing any kind of discussion about the actual riots. Let it go.
sorry Yolland, just saw your post - i'll drop it...
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oh god year 2 wow i must've missed that - shame they didn't teach me that at postgrad level eh
Didn't they?
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Apologies...
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Old 08-10-2011, 12:48 PM   #235
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Didn't they?
that's the British education system for you!
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Well back to the riot, my work is closed again tonight, got to get up early in the morning again to open up.
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Don't get me started... lol
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Whilst seeing my city go to shit is awful, the thing that really gets me is the irony of all of this.

The riots sprung out of a peaceful and well meaning protest against police/police brutality/lack of accountability, and have led to many people i know (and seemingly a general sentiment) in support of police. The protest was against how the police were acting, and now that message has completely been destroyed because the riots have just made authority seem much more necessary.
Not trying to explain how i think police should act, just that it's really sad that the original protest and its message seems completely useless now.

And then there's the explanation that these riots have come out of police oppression against youths or minorities in particular - that very well may be the case, but destroying local neighbourhoods will buy no sympathy, and will make it seem like such oppression was justified (at least, to the government).

So, not only is it horrible to see neighbourhoods, and local businesses and homes be destroyed, people robbed and injured, and left homeless, but any valid points against how the police act has been completely drowned out by these fucking moronic rioters.

As my friend put it, "They're not protestors, they're not even rioters. They're just cunts being cunts".
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You're sure of that? With this much anger it seems like many things could have set it off, if it wasn't this, it would be something else.
That's a very good point, BVS. And a very troubling one, too. Considering how unrelated the riots are to the original protest, these rampages must have a much deeper root (and so the problem as a whole must be more severe than a simple opportunistic offshoot from a protest).
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Old 08-10-2011, 02:40 PM   #240
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Whilst seeing my city go to shit is awful, the thing that really gets me is the irony of all of this.

The riots sprung out of a peaceful and well meaning protest against police/police brutality/lack of accountability, and have led to many people i know (and seemingly a general sentiment) in support of police. The protest was against how the police were acting, and now that message has completely been destroyed because the riots have just made authority seem much more necessary.

Not trying to explain how i think police should act, just that it's really sad that the original protest and its message seems completely useless now... As my friend put it, "They're not protestors, they're not even rioters. They're just cunts being cunts".
Well said.

My friend from the very peaceful Faroe Islands posted this on his Facebook page earlier today: "Lack of empathy is the root of all violence. To understand violent actions, we may need to have empathy with those that ("appear to") lack empathy."

It's a hard task to accomplish sometimes -- especially in the face of such destruction. But the true roots of the riots (beyond the initial event itself), need to be explored by those in charge. If not, those 'cunts' your friend described will literally ruin everything -- including the ideological points -- for both sides.

...Another great one, from a London bookstore employee: "We'll stay open, if they steal some books they might learn something."
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